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newbie: what to install?

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R.A.M. - 06 Jan 2007 06:37 GMT
Hello,
I am programmer and I would like to learn programming in Java (Windows XP
Professional and Ubuntu Linux). I would like to develop database
applications (Oracle) with web interface (probably JSP, Servlets, JDBC,
SQLJ, but I am not an expert).

For Windows I have downloaded and installed (so far):
   jre-1_5_0_10-windows-i586-p-iftw.exe
   jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-win.exe
   java_app_platform_sdk-5_02-windows-nojdk.exe
   java_ee_sdk-5_02-windows.exe
   J2EE-SDK-Callisto-Fall-Maintenance-win32.zip
   apache-tomcat-5.5.20.zip

For Linux I have downloaded (so far):
   jdk-6-linux-i586.bin
   jdk-6-nb-5_5-linux.bin
   java_ee_sdk-5_02-linux.bin

I have also downloaded tutorial:
   javaee-5-doc-tutorial-1.0_01.zip
and Oracle 10g database:
   10201_database_win32.zip
   10201_database_linux32.zip

Could you help me please: what more I should install? More packages? Web
servers and utilities? More documentation? Drivers? Samples?
Thank you!
/RAM/
Lew - 06 Jan 2007 16:39 GMT
> For Windows I have downloaded and installed (so far):

You should read carefully what each installer installs. Not all of these were
needed.

>     jre-1_5_0_10-windows-i586-p-iftw.exe
>     jdk-1_5_0_10-nb-5_5-win.exe

The jdk installer also installs the jre.

>     java_app_platform_sdk-5_02-windows-nojdk.exe
>     java_ee_sdk-5_02-windows.exe

Not sure about this one, but doesn't java_ee_sdk also install Java? In any
event, both of these install J2EE.

>     J2EE-SDK-Callisto-Fall-Maintenance-win32.zip
>     apache-tomcat-5.5.20.zip

Tomcat is another Web App server, covering the JSP/Servlet part of the spec
that the other JEE kits also install.

> For Linux I have downloaded (so far):
>     jdk-6-linux-i586.bin
>     jdk-6-nb-5_5-linux.bin

Both of these install the JDK (and JRE). The 'nb' version also installs the
Netbeans IDE.

>     java_ee_sdk-5_02-linux.bin
>
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>     10201_database_win32.zip
>     10201_database_linux32.zip

Oracle is a large product, by which I mean it has a plethora of features,
utilities and management procedures to use. It is possible to get by with
knowing a small part of all that, as I do, but also worth considering getting
a db like PostgreSQL that has a lower entrance ramp.

Read through the Sun tutorials, at least the parts regarding the Java(tm)
language and JSPs and servlets. If you are starting from the beginning with
respect to all these technologies at once, then be very patient with yourself.

- Lew
Frank Stallone - 06 Apr 2008 10:58 GMT
One thing I dislike about Sun's downloads is there are a lot of repeats.
You'll find some of those packages contain the same stuff.

I'm not sure where your level is with programming but I'd just focus on
Java basics for now and then perhaps move onto playing about with MYSQL
and Java and then JSPs, servlets, etc.

If you go ahead and opt for starting off with JSPs and what not then
decide whether you want to use tomcat or Sun's application server. You
don't need both.

> Hello,
> I am programmer and I would like to learn programming in Java (Windows
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> servers and utilities? More documentation? Drivers? Samples? Thank you!
> /RAM/

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