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Java Forum / General / October 20063D & web application ?
I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming, rotating...) works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but no signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ? > I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site > which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models > created in 3DStudio, Maya etc. What do you think about idea ? Does make > sense ? Does something like that exist? Will viewing (zooming, rotating...) > works in web environment? I find with google only 3D viewer applets, but no > signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ? There have been a number of web pages using 3D with either VRML or X3D. The advantage with those is that they are viewable with a simple browser plug-in and are not tied to a vendor. There is also Java 3D which has a plug-in. In both cases, the 3D would be cross platform. With 3DStudio I don't think there is an appropriate viewer for Linux users, and the same could be true for Maya. Tony > I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site > which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > no > signs of web application, or I google with the wrong words ? Unless you want to somehow convert the 3D Models to VRML (sounds difficult and painful), you're going to either need an applet to render the 3D models, or a flash animation, or something similar (could it be done in Ajax? Again, sounds difficult and painful). But for the web app itself, it probably doesn't need to be aware of the fact that the files its managing are 3D models at all. You could get any arbitrary generic CMS (Content Management System) which would allow users to upload files, and it would keep track of authors, number of downloads, ratings, description, etc. stuff like that. You would just have to add a tiny bit of code to link to your 3D viewing applet. - Oliver "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj grupi:bEp%g.71454$E67.67130@clgrps13... > > I was thinking about lerning web application through the creating the site > > which will enable the users to upload, download and viewing the 3D models [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > - Oliver few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the 3DStudio (the family house, for example). > few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know > can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow > the user to "move it" through the 3D space which they make with the > 3DStudio > (the family house, for example). Basically, you want to have one 3D model (e.g. a person) and another 3D model (a house), and you want it so that when buttons on the keyboard are pressed, the person-model is moved, but the house-mouse doesn't move (but perhaps the camera will follow the person around), right? Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash or Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially implementing a very simple game here. - Oliver "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj grupi:crK%g.71716$E67.40731@clgrps13... > > few 3Dstudio modelers ask me another question about 3D. They want to know > > can I make the application (web or desktop, it doesn't matter) which allow [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pressed, the person-model is moved, but the house-mouse doesn't move (but > perhaps the camera will follow the person around), right? > Doing this via DHTML will be extremely painful. Doing it via Flash or > Java applets will be moderately painful. You're essentially implementing a > very simple game here. > > - Oliver So the easiest way that 3D modeller can present its work is creating the .avi movie which will drive the customer (of the house) through the model. But still arhitects doesn't have the presentation tool for moving through its model by the will of customer. Stuipid or not they looking for an application which could handle with its 3D models of the house. > "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > its model by the will of customer. Stuipid or not they looking for an > application which could handle with its 3D models of the house. So go ahead and write this mini-game engine. - Oliver "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj grupi:BDO%g.71775$E67.7895@clgrps13... > > "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj > > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > - Oliver You scared me:)), I thought that it isn't so complicated, especilly when no one choose java for making 3D engine. I have just only one conclusion and you correct me if I'm wrong: textures and shapes of 3DStudio works are pretty amazing while all todays games (wrote in C++ I suppose) are not. So even I write mini games engine it will not so amazing as I thought. > "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > pretty amazing while all todays games (wrote in C++ I suppose) are not. So > even I write mini games engine it will not so amazing as I thought. Writing a 3D game is difficult, no matter what language you use. The fact that you want to do it in an applet makes it even more difficult. But it's very possible to write 3D games in Java. http://www.bytonic.de/html/jake2.html https://jge.dev.java.net/ http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=68&Itemid=84 - Oliver "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj grupi:6c40h.37213$P7.29095@edtnps89... > > "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj > >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > http://www.bytonic.de/html/jake2.html > https://jge.dev.java.net/ http://www.jmonkeyengine.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=68&It emid=84 > - Oliver The links above are incredible. As a young boy I always have a wish to make games but unfortunatelly life ask me to learn about business application and know I don't anything about 3D. Thank you on links. I will spend some night hours to investigate these sites. Did you check if there's a browser plugin to view 3DStudio models? I remember long time ago working with a plugin to render and navigate Autocad models... (So you don't need to reinvent the wheel) > "Oliver Wong" <owong@castortech.com> je napisao u poruci interesnoj > grupi:bEp%g.71454$E67.67130@clgrps13... [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > 3DStudio > (the family house, for example). Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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