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Microsoft - Most trusted software vendor in USA

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Bobby - 14 Dec 2005 17:25 GMT
You would think that with all the bad press Windows gets from whiners
and people who think that Linux is superior, people would be leary of
Microsoft by now.  However, it is #7 on Fortune's list of most trusted
brand names.  This makes it the most trusted software vendor in
America.

I will of course need to provide a definition for "software vendor" in
the context I've used it, since the real definition is up for debate.
For the sake of simplicity I will define a software vendor as a
company who manufactures and distributes software and derives all or
most of its revenue from selling said software.

In other words, Google is #3 but they are not a software vendor in my
eyes, they manufacture web services which result in revenue by
providing a billboard for ad space.

Sony is high on the list too, and they do in fact manufacture and
distribute software (hardware drivers, games, etc) but they are not a
major (relatively speaking) means of revenue for the company.

Funny how you don't see Oracle, Sun, Red Hat, IBM, and other crap
brands up there.

Probably because Java is dying:

http://tinyurl.com/76fc5
Erwin Moller - 19 Dec 2005 09:36 GMT
> You would think that with all the bad press Windows gets from whiners
> and people who think that Linux is superior, people would be leary of
> Microsoft by now.  However, it is #7 on Fortune's list of most trusted
> brand names.  This makes it the most trusted software vendor in
> America.

How many other lists do you want that give a different result?
Because Fortune says A, it is A?
Bobby boy..... Bobby boy.....
That is not how things work in the real world.

Get informed man, and stop spamming us with propaganda.
(Next thing he writes is that US starts using torture officially.)

Regards,
Erwin Moller
Bobby - 21 Dec 2005 13:34 GMT
>> You would think that with all the bad press Windows gets from whiners
>> and people who think that Linux is superior, people would be leary of
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Regards,
>Erwin Moller

Did you even read the article?  When IBM concedes the technology is
losing ground to competitors, you know Java is in trouble.
Edmond Dantes - 23 Dec 2005 22:17 GMT
> You would think that with all the bad press Windows gets from whiners
> and people who think that Linux is superior, people would be leary of
> Microsoft by now.  However, it is #7 on Fortune's list of most trusted
> brand names.  This makes it the most trusted software vendor in
> America.

And considering how many problems and open gaping security holes Microsoft
software has, that trust is sorely misplaced. It just goes to show the
level of ignorance and crass stupidity there exists among most software
users out there.

...
> Funny how you don't see Oracle, Sun, Red Hat, IBM, and other crap
> brands up there.

And who's the crowd Fortune appeals to? The non-technical corporate types,
most of whom wouldn't know the difference between software and hardware if
you pressed them on the issue.

> Probably because Java is dying:
> http://tinyurl.com/76fc5

Yes, it does not surprise me that Java is loosing ground to the LAMP
technologies at all. It's just too damn hard to get anything done with Java
Servelets. The LAMP technologies, taken together, is hell-powerful, simple
enough to allow you to push out small tasks quickly, and yet remains very
scalable and extremely flexible. And they are *fast* and *finely
configurable*. Much more so than the Java package.

Funny, though, you slam Red Hat and IBM, and yet provide a reference that
speaks to the superiority of Open Source software on which they so heavily
depend.

Most curious indeed.

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Ted - 24 Dec 2005 21:22 GMT
>> You would think that with all the bad press Windows gets from whiners
>> and people who think that Linux is superior, people would be leary of
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
>Most curious indeed.

You would apparently do well to change technologies, whatever you're
using.  I could only get one of your links under shameless plugs to
work, (the second one in the list, and even that one took about a
minute and a half to come up).


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