Eclipse vs. Netbeans

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Heike Bohm - 16 Jun 2004 15:11 GMT

Hi everybody,

can anybody tell me why everybody is so excited about Eclipse? I'm
using NetBeans for several weeks now and after everybody's talking
about Eclipse I tried to work with it for the last days.

But I must admit that I didn't find the big advantage in this tool.
It's complicated, it's not intuitiv. The visual editor is much better
in NetBeans. You can collapse source code in NetBeans, and so on....

So please can anybody show me the highlights of Eclipse?

Thanks,
Heike

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Radoslaw Dabkowski - 16 Jun 2004 16:25 GMT

hi
I disagree with U, i have never used NetBeans but things that U've written
about Eclipse thats not true.

In my opinion Eclipse is one of most intuitiv editor, couse it has almost
every function U can imagine and connected with eg. Ant thats EVERYTHING i
need.
of course U can collapse etc... this is simple functions, and other i won't
write about them, couse it has it all
for example:
U have class B (without any methods) and A (with aMethod)
in class A in method aMethod
U create new object of class B eg
B bObj = new B();
Then U write
b.addNumbers(intVariable, stringVariable, floatVariable,
stringVariable2, intVariable2);
Eclipse will show U - there is no such method in B class and if U would like
Eclipse will create for U new method (header)
addNumbers(int v1, string v2,......) in class B
exactly the one U want - even with return statement...

And I using also VS .net and it does not has such a function eg.....
I prefer ECLIPSE :)

is it enought ?
pzdr

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> Heike

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Takeda - 16 Jun 2004 22:03 GMT

Hi, Heike!

I'd never used NetBeans. So I can´t compare both. But I can tell
you why I like Eclipse. Everybody say it is faster than Eclipse
because it is a SWT application (not Swing).
Despite, it is open source and there are many big guys behind it
(like Sun).
So, it is. Oh, I almost forget. There are many plugins that
increase Eclipse features!

Takeda

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Dirk Schnelle - 17 Jun 2004 09:24 GMT

> Everybody say it is faster than Eclipse
> because it is a SWT application (not Swing).

But is it really faster? Did you experience that? have a llok at the
discussion at
http://www.javalobby.org/threadMode2.jsp?forum=61&thread=3883&start=0

IMHO it is not a good decision, since you make it platform dependent. E.g.
some features only exist in the Windows release.

> Despite, it is open source and there are many big guys behind it
> (like Sun).

NetBeans is OpenSource, too. Espacially SUN is standing behind the
project. If you download the SDK, e.g. you can choose to get it bundled
with Netbeans. As far as I know, SUN was not amused when IBM decided to
support Eclipse.

> So, it is. Oh, I almost forget. There are many plugins that
> increase Eclipse features!

NetBeans is designed to support plugins, too. I don't know if you
experience it, but if you use many plugins in eclipse, the performance
slows down.

/Dirk

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Kroll, Michael - 17 Jun 2004 07:35 GMT

Hello,

> Hi everybody,
>
> But I must admit that I didn't find the big advantage in this tool.
> It's complicated, it's not intuitiv. The visual editor is much better
> in NetBeans.

The Eclipse-VE Projekt is in the moment not in the final state,
but in Eclipse you can modify the sourcecode in Netbeans not.

>You can collapse source code in NetBeans, and so on....

In the Eclipse3RC2 you can.

> So please can anybody show me the highlights of Eclipse?

I have yous Netbeans but the plugins for Eclipse are much better as in
Netbeans.

> Thanks,
> Heike

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Dirk Schnelle - 17 Jun 2004 08:35 GMT

>> But I must admit that I didn't find the big advantage in this tool.
>> It's complicated, it's not intuitiv. The visual editor is much better
>> in NetBeans.
> The Eclipse-VE Projekt is in the moment not in the final state,
> but in Eclipse you can modify the sourcecode in Netbeans not.

What do you mean? Sure you can modify the sourcecode.

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Dieter Bender - 17 Jun 2004 10:22 GMT

Hi,

this discussion is a follow on to:
strawberries vs. raspberries

Dieter Bender

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> Thanks,
> Heike

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Dirk Schnelle - 17 Jun 2004 12:05 GMT

Am Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:22:15 +0200 schrieb Dieter Bender:

> Hi,
>
> this discussion is a follow on to:
> strawberries vs. raspberries

Yes, you are definitely right.

But I had a similar qustion, some days ago and I think the initiator of
this thread has the same problem: To understand why there is such a hype
around eclipse.

/Dirk

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Dieter Bender - 17 Jun 2004 12:35 GMT

Dirk,

thats not so hard to understand. At the beginning of june, every year there
is a hype around strawberries in germany...

Dieter

> Am Thu, 17 Jun 2004 11:22:15 +0200 schrieb Dieter Bender:
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> /Dirk

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Robert Klemme - 17 Jun 2004 13:04 GMT

> Hi everybody,
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> So please can anybody show me the highlights of Eclipse?

File system structuring and project setup suit me much more in Eclipse
than in NetBeans.

I always have problems finding the right options to set in NB, whereas I
almost never have in E.

CVS support in Eclipse is superior IMHO.

E makes a much more consistent impression on my than NB. NB reflects its
history, i.e. you can feel that it's older and has been changed for quite
some time now.

The one area where NB shines is the UI editing for Swing. But given the
quality of the rest of E I'd expect UI editors as good in E in the near
future.

Kind regards

robert

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