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pmdanger - 24 Feb 2004 18:10 GMT

Hi,

I've just read your comment about my question regarding to the best
java development tool. It seems that a lot of people use Visual Aga
for Java or JBuilder.

Some people talked about Eclipse...but if i understood, people from
Eclipse are basically from IBM so from Visual Age project, no ?

Difference between VAJ and Eclipse is at first the price...Eclipse is
free :-)

But what about functionalities ?

And what are the default of Jbuilder regarding to VAJ ???

thanks in advance,
Maileen

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David Segall - 25 Feb 2004 17:20 GMT

>Hi,
>
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>thanks in advance,
>Maileen

My apologies to regular readers of this news group and the OP for
simply reproducing my most recent post on the topic. As noted below
Visual Age for Java which was based on IBM's Smalltalk product has
been eclipsed [ ): ] by Websphere Application Developer.

Netbeans (www.netbeans.org) is free and Open Source. I think you will
find it the best choice. Borland JBuilder Foundation
(http://www.borland.com/jbuilder/foundation/) is also a free download.
Oracle's JDeveloper (http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/content.html)
is free but the license severely restricts what you can do with
programs you write if you do not pay for it.

Eclipse (www.eclipse.org) is a popular Open Source IDE and there are
free or cheap plug-ins like
http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/index.html,
http://www.assisiplugins.com/index_start.html and
http://www.eclipse.org/vep/ that provide WYSIWYG GUI development.

Sun One Studio 4 Community Edition, which is derived from Netbeans, is
still available, without charge, from
http://jsecom16d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=FJCI9-401
-TL9M&TransactionId=try&LMLoadBalanced=
but has been superseded by Studio 5. Sun suggest you use Netbeans if
you want a free version.

IBM has a free version of Visual Age for Java at
http://www7.software.ibm.com/vad.nsf/FrameData/Master?OpenDocument&FSet=1&Doc3=4
589&Title=Overview&DPart=Overview&Doc4=4594.
It has a limit on the number of classes in your application and, in
any case, has been superseded by Websphere Studio Application
Developer (http://www-3.ibm.com/software/awdtools/studioappdev/).
Websphere is not free but a 60 day trial is available.

IntelliJ IDEA (http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/index.html) also includes
a GUI builder. It is not free but you can download a 30 day trial.

I believe that this is a complete list of free Java IDE's that include
a WYSIWYG GUI builder and contains references to all the commercial
vendors of such a product. Please submit a follow-up if you have a
correction.

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Dale King - 25 Feb 2004 20:38 GMT

> My apologies to regular readers of this news group and the OP for
> simply reproducing my most recent post on the topic. As noted below
> Visual Age for Java which was based on IBM's Smalltalk product has
> been eclipsed [ ): ] by Websphere Application Developer.

Nice summary. Might make a nice regular posting to the group. But you didn't
point out that Eclipse and Websphere Application Developer are basically the
same product. The relationship between WSAD is basically like the
relationship between NetBeans and SunOne.

--
Dale King

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David Segall - 26 Feb 2004 14:59 GMT

>> My apologies to regular readers of this news group and the OP for
>> simply reproducing my most recent post on the topic. As noted below
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>same product. The relationship between WSAD is basically like the
>relationship between NetBeans and SunOne.

Thanks for the compliment Dale. I will incorporate your suggestion in
future posts on the topic. It will require some qualification because
Eclipse does not include all the features of Websphere Studio
Application Developer, notably a "what you see is what you get" editor
for graphical user interfaces.

My impression is that, at the "Developer Edition" level, Sun One is a
version of NetBeans but WSAD was written using Eclipse as the starting
point. I have no experience with the "Enterprise" level products so I
would be interested in the opinions of someone who can compare
Websphere Studio Enterprise Developer with Eclipse or Sun One Studio
Enterprise Edition with NetBeans.

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Peter XUE - 03 Mar 2004 08:26 GMT

JavaBeginner from http://www.javatoolsoft.com
JCeater from http://www.jcreater.com

two lightweight java IDE. Very good.

> Hi,
>
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> thanks in advance,
> Maileen

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