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Robert Kattke - 21 Jan 2004 11:35 GMT
I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available.
[ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ]

Is Sun promoting a particular product or bundling its Downloads with
an IDE?

Can I have a number of these products installed on my machine and
easily switch between them ?
What problems may I run into, regarding (permanent) settings ?
(Windows XP)

Which use the standard Sun Java Class API's and which force you to use
theirs?

Any other products deserving mention ?  New Tools ?  Open Source or
Commercial

Any feedback, references and links are most welcome.   TIA-R
Robert G. Rittenhouse - 22 Jan 2004 03:27 GMT
>I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available.
>[ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ]
>
>Is Sun promoting a particular product or bundling its Downloads with
>an IDE?

Yes, NetBeans (although you can get the SDK without).

>Can I have a number of these products installed on my machine and
>easily switch between them ?
>What problems may I run into, regarding (permanent) settings ?
>(Windows XP)

Generally yes. Many are Java based, crossplatform and don't do anything
permanent.

>Which use the standard Sun Java Class API's and which force you to use
>theirs?

For what?

>Any other products deserving mention ?  New Tools ?  Open Source or
>Commercial

Tons. Definitely Eclipse.
For edu use also look at BlueJ and Jgrasp.
Xemacs with JDE.

What are you wanting to do with Java?
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Rob R.

Jussi Jumppanen - 23 Jan 2004 17:27 GMT
> Any other products deserving mention ?  New Tools ?  Open Source or
> Commercial
>
> Any feedback, references and links are most welcome.   TIA-R

   Zeus for Windows (Windows platform only, shareware)
   http://www.zeusedit.com/lookmain.html

Jussi Jumppanen
Author of: Zeus for Windows, Win32 (Brief, Emacs, etc) FTP Text Editor
"The C/C++, Java, HTML, FTP, Python, PHP, Perl programmer's editor"
Home Page: http://www.zeusedit.com
shay - 26 Jan 2004 22:53 GMT
> Any other products deserving mention ?  New Tools ?  Open Source or
> Commercial

Oracle JDeveloper and Oracle Containers for J2EE
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev
http://otn.oracle.com/products/oc4j
Tim Anderson - 02 Feb 2004 22:34 GMT
> I need to get a crash course on the products and tools available.
> [ JBoss, IntelliJ, Websphere, NetBeans, etc., etc. ]
>
> Any other products deserving mention ?  New Tools ?  Open Source or
> Commercial

The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder.

There are a couple of links to stats in my blogs:

http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=15

http://www.itwriting.com/blog/?postid=16

Tim
Shane Mingins - 02 Feb 2004 23:14 GMT
> The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder.

Just goes to show you should never listen to rumours ;-)

The most intelligent Java IDE around -- http://www.intellij.com/idea/

Cheers
Shane
Georgy Pavlov - 25 Feb 2004 08:05 GMT
IntelliJ IDEA is definetely a cooooooooooooooool IDE.
But most of the features of the IDEA (at list for the 3.x versions) are
implemented in version 2.1.2 of Eclipse IDE. Plus that you don't have to buy
it. Not that IDEA is very expensive but it costs some money anyway.
These two are my favourite IDEs in any way.
I've never been quite a fan of JBuilder - too clumsy , too cluttered, too
inflexible, too expensive. No points for Borland ;-)) I don't believe in
Sun's surveys which claim it is IDE #1.
Once I could point as plus for JBuilder the GUI design capabilities. But now
it is much more easier for me to handle GUIs in Eclipse with some of the
free plugins out there. Besides SWT gives much more pleasent end-user
experience. It surely has to go its way but it started pretty well. And
after all the user doesn't care how easy it si to implement something .
He/she needs a nice and well performing user interface. The latter is hard
for AWT/Swing.

Cheers : Georgi

> > The two most popular Java IDEs are rumoured to be Eclipse and JBuilder.
>
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> Cheers
> Shane


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