Eclipse, Memory Hog

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duffymo - 22 Jan 2004 15:22 GMT

I like Eclipse very much - the features are wonderful, and the price
is terrific. I'm running version 3.0 on Windows 2000 under JDK
1.4.1_03 from Sun.

I have just one complaint: it's a total memory hog. Right now Eclipse
is gobbling up 111 RAM on my machine (I've got 256MB RAM installed).
The editor is barely functional. After every change I have to wait
for Eclipse to rebuild my workspace. It can't keep up with my typing.

I used to have the same complaint with IBM's Visual Age for Java: no
amount of RAM was enough.

I don't mean this as a slur against Eclipse. Like I said, I like the
product very much. Perhaps this is just what a typical IDE requires
these days.

Are there any leaks or corrections I should know about? Thanks - MOD

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Michael Amling - 22 Jan 2004 16:15 GMT

> I like Eclipse very much - the features are wonderful, and the price
> is terrific. I'm running version 3.0 on Windows 2000 under JDK
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> I used to have the same complaint with IBM's Visual Age for Java: no
> amount of RAM was enough.

You need to implement the I.B.M. solution: Install Bigger Memory.

--Mike Amling

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Dale King - 22 Jan 2004 21:59 GMT

> I like Eclipse very much - the features are wonderful, and the price
> is terrific. I'm running version 3.0 on Windows 2000 under JDK
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> product very much. Perhaps this is just what a typical IDE requires
> these days.

There must be something wrong on your setup/system. I use Eclipse on Windoze
2000 on a 266 MHz laptop with only 192MB of RAM and find it quite usable. It
can be slow sometimes and startup is very long, but nothing like what you
describe. 3.0 seems a bit slower of than 2.1.2 did. On my machine it looks
like eclipse is taking 212 KB and javaw.exe is taking 4.5 MB of RAM.

Perhaps the problem is one of your plug-ins. Try running with no plug-ins.
--
Dale King

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duffymo - 23 Jan 2004 14:14 GMT

> There must be something wrong on your setup/system. I use Eclipse on Windoze
> 2000 on a 266 MHz laptop with only 192MB of RAM and find it quite usable. It
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>
> Perhaps the problem is one of your plug-ins. Try running with no plug-ins.

Thanks for your answer, Dale.

It's usable, but VERY slow. I'm not sure that what I'm describing as
intolerable isn't just as good as or better than your "quite usable".
It's a subjective thing, of course.

Perhaps it is the plug-ins, but I don't have anything that doesn't
come with the vanilla download. If I open Windows->Open
Perspective->Other->Plugin Development, I see that Tomcat, Ant,
Lucene, etc. are installed. Does this mean I have Tomcat 4.1.29
running under Eclipse? (I never knew that!) How would I stop the
Tomcat service from running, or any other for that matter? Thanks -
MOD

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Dale King - 23 Jan 2004 17:08 GMT

> > There must be something wrong on your setup/system. I use Eclipse on Windoze
> > 2000 on a 266 MHz laptop with only 192MB of RAM and find it quite usable. It
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> running under Eclipse? (I never knew that!) How would I stop the
> Tomcat service from running, or any other for that matter? Thanks -

I'm not sure what you mean here. That just opens the plug-in development
perspective. I have nothing with Tomcat or Lucene on mine. If you are doing
plug-in development that probably does take more resources since you
basically have to run two copies of the workbench for testing. I am not
doing any plug-in development.
--
Dale King

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Jon Skeet - 23 Jan 2004 14:59 GMT

> I like Eclipse very much - the features are wonderful, and the price
> is terrific. I'm running version 3.0 on Windows 2000 under JDK
> 1.4.1_03 from Sun.

If you're running version 3.0, you're running a prerelease version. If
you're running 3.0-M6, I gather there have been lots of complaints
about its speed, and they've been fixed in later integration builds
(for which there isn't a milestone build yet). I would suggest using
Eclipse 2.1.2 for the moment, unless you really want to be on the
bleeding edge.

However, 111M of memory is fairly reasonable for Eclipse to take up
(and I'd recommend installing another 256Mb anyway, and setting Eclipse
to start up with a maximum heap size of about 192M).

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duffymo - 23 Jan 2004 19:59 GMT

> If you're running version 3.0, you're running a prerelease version. If
> you're running 3.0-M6, I gather there have been lots of complaints
> about its speed, and they've been fixed in later integration builds
> (for which there isn't a milestone build yet). I would suggest using
> Eclipse 2.1.2 for the moment, unless you really want to be on the
> bleeding edge.

Thank you, Jon, I didn't realize that. It's my fault for not looking
at what I was downloading closely enough.

> However, 111M of memory is fairly reasonable for Eclipse to take up
> (and I'd recommend installing another 256Mb anyway, and setting Eclipse
> to start up with a maximum heap size of about 192M).

I'd love to get more memory, but it's a company PC and times are
tight. Gotta live with what I've got. Thanks - MOD

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Dale King - 27 Jan 2004 19:49 GMT

> > If you're running version 3.0, you're running a prerelease version. If
> > you're running 3.0-M6, I gather there have been lots of complaints
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> Thank you, Jon, I didn't realize that. It's my fault for not looking
> at what I was downloading closely enough.

I have to take back what I said and I agree with Jon. When I said that there
is no problem with Eclipse, I hadn't used 3.0M6 very much. After trying to
use it some more, I see that it definitely has problems. 2.1.2 did not have
these problems
--
Dale King

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steve - 26 Jan 2004 21:51 GMT

> I like Eclipse very much - the features are wonderful, and the price
> is terrific. I'm running version 3.0 on Windows 2000 under JDK
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>
> Are there any leaks or corrections I should know about? Thanks - MOD

well there is something wrong with your setup , i 'm running on a mac, and
don't have a problem with speed, sure its a memory pig, but with 1gb of ram
it's not a problem.

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