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Martin Perfelian - 15 Jan 2004 17:21 GMT

Hi!

I have been a long time user of Microsoft development tools and
technologies. Recently I have become interested in developing web
applications in Java. I would be very grateful if someone has any
information on frameworks, IDEs etc to quickly get started with
development work in Java.

Having used Visual Studio .Net for some time I like the idea of a
completely integrated development environment where build tools, code
templates and application frameworks are already set up.

What similar tools exist for Java? I would like to get started
quickly. Are there any tools that don't require you to manually
configure loads of build scripts and deployment files?

Kind Regards

Martin

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P.Hill - 15 Jan 2004 18:18 GMT

> Hi!
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> Having used Visual Studio .Net for some time

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> What similar tools exist for Java?

I would suggest Eclipse and it's free! (You'll find that a lot
of things are free in the Java world).
But if you want even fancier tool try the IBM version that costs
money, but before you do that check out the various free (again)
plugins available for it.

-Paul

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Shane Mingins - 15 Jan 2004 21:00 GMT

> Hi!
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> Martin

I think the beauty of Java is that you can select the pieces that suit you
... IOW select the IDE that best suits your needs and if later you do not
like it or find one better you simply change it. You mentioned build tools
... ANT seems to be the defacto Java tool and you will find that all good
IDE's support it ... so as I said swapping bits is quite feasible.

Borland are going down the complete development lifecycle path so if you
wish to pay lots of $$$ you could look there.

As another reply stated there are lots of great free things in the Java
world. But some are worth paying for. As an IDE Intellij Idea is worth the
$$$

Regards
Shane
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The most intelligent Java IDE around -- http://www.intellij.com/idea/

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shay - 15 Jan 2004 22:45 GMT

If you are coming from MS background you are probably looking for
tools that will give you a visual way to edit your user interfaces (be
that HTML applications or client applications), you will want some
framework that will simplify working with the database creating
objects that hide its complexity, and providing drag and drop ability
to link the UI to the data layer.

For this check out Oracle JDeveloper - one IDE with all you need
inside.
For a quick online demo -
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev/viewlets/905p_ide_overview/10gQuickTour_view
let_swf.html

To download for free and try it out:
http://otn.oracle.com/products/jdev

Eclipse in general is more oriented at someone who feels comfortable
just hacking Java code - it is not the best solution for beginners.

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Thomas Schodt - 16 Jan 2004 02:02 GMT

> information on frameworks, IDEs etc to quickly get started with
> development work in Java.

IDEs.
I tried JBuilder, NetBeans, Eclipse.
Of those I prefer NetBeans.

> Having used Visual Studio .Net for some time I like the idea of a
> completely integrated development environment where build tools, code
> templates and application frameworks are already set up.

I'd hate to have to work with someone who would not know how to compile
and run a "Hello world" applet from the command line...

> What similar tools exist for Java? I would like to get started
> quickly. Are there any tools that don't require you to manually
> configure loads of build scripts and deployment files?

Any Java IDE will compile a "solo-project" for you.

Ant is the 'make' equivalent in the Java world.

Deployment?
I believe EAR files are used in J2EE context.
Someone else expand on that?

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newsadict - 17 Jan 2004 21:59 GMT

There used to be "Community Editions" of everything from Sun to Borland.
JDeveloper from Oracle is also available for learners for free.

> > information on frameworks, IDEs etc to quickly get started with
> > development work in Java.
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> I believe EAR files are used in J2EE context.
> Someone else expand on that?

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