Sun Studio Enterprise Builder 8 and NetBeans 5.5

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groupie - 06 Jun 2007 23:47 GMT

HI,
I'm a bit confused by Sun's IDE offerings: I'm using their Studio
Enterprise 8 (SE8) but I see they're also offering another IDE called
Netbeans 5.5. I would like to continue to use SE8 but the GUI designer
in Netbeans looks much better than what is available in SE8.

Since SE8 is based on Netbeans, will downloading v5.5 act as a kind of
plug-in to SE8 or is it a completely seperate IDE? If that's the case,
whay re they offering 2 IDEs???

Thanks.

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David Segall - 07 Jun 2007 16:41 GMT

>HI,
>I'm a bit confused by Sun's IDE offerings: I'm using their Studio
>Enterprise 8 (SE8) but I see they're also offering another IDE called
>Netbeans 5.5. I would like to continue to use SE8 but the GUI designer
>in Netbeans looks much better than what is available in SE8.

Sun are currently making all their development tools open source and,
ultimately, folding them into NetBeans. It is likely that NetBeans
5.5.1 plus the Enterprise Pack includes all the facilities that you
are using in SE8 but it is possible that some features you require
have not yet been included.

>Since SE8 is based on Netbeans, will downloading v5.5 act as a kind of
>plug-in to SE8 or is it a completely seperate IDE?

NetBeans is a completely separate IDE from SE8 although most of the
code is the same. Sun added some Java EE development aids to NetBeans
and did some extra testing before naming the IDE Studio Enterprise.

>If that's the case,
>whay re they offering 2 IDEs???

The idea was income! IBM and Codegear (formerly Borland) are using the
same marketing model. Both are selling an enhanced version of the free
Eclipse IDE.

Actually Sun has four IDEs. NetBeans <www.netbeans.org>, Java Studio
Enterprise <http://developers.sun.com/jsenterprise/>, Java Studio
Creator <http://developers.sun.com/jscreator/> and Sun Studio
<http://developers.sun.com/sunstudio/>. Sun agrees with you and has
decided it is not the way to go. Most of Java Studio Enterprise can be
added to NetBeans using the Enterprise Pack. Most of Java Studio
Creator can be added to NetBeans using the Visual Web Pack. Some of
the development environment from Sun Studio can be added to NetBeans
using the C/C++ pack (Fortran is not yet included).

The bottom line is that you will eventually have to change to
NetBeans. Why not try it?

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groupie - 11 Jun 2007 22:21 GMT

> >HI,
> >I'm a bit confused by Sun's IDE offerings: I'm using their Studio
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> The bottom line is that you will eventually have to change to
> NetBeans. Why not try it?

Hi,
Just to let you kow that I downloaded NB6 as per your suggestion and
the GUI designer is much better than in SE8, as I hoped. The
interfaces are practically identical otherwise so all my work in
learning SE8 was not wasted - I suppose it's this Eclipse platform I
have to thank for that. But thanks for your suggestion! Now if only
Java was that easy.... ;-)

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David Segall - 12 Jun 2007 15:25 GMT

>> >HI,
>> >I'm a bit confused by Sun's IDE offerings: I'm using their Studio
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>have to thank for that. But thanks for your suggestion! Now if only
>Java was that easy.... ;-)

I'm pleased to have helped but, in case I have confused someone else,
I should make it clear that the Sun products were based on NetBeans
not Eclipse. The similarity with Codegear and IBM was only that they
also based their commercial products on a free one. I assume you are
aware that NB6 is still being tested and the current stable version of
NetBeans is 5.5.1.

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groupie - 06 Jul 2007 09:47 GMT

> >> >HI,
> >> >I'm a bit confused by Sun's IDE offerings: I'm using their Studio
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Hi,
Yes, I've come across a few bugs but overall NB6 is very useable and I
find it very easy to work with. I like the 'feedback' option where you
report your usage of menus, keyboard actions etc. - should make the
GUI more finely tuned to the vast majority of developers.

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