IDE: Java NetBeans, Eclipse or Creator

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Dave - 06 Apr 2006 05:47 GMT

I have been learning Java by just learning with the basics: notepad or
textpad.

I have gotten enough in the basics that I would like to move on to a JAVA
IDE.

Being cheap it has to be free so Java Net Beans, Eclipse and Creator all fit
the bill and seem to be powerful.

I make some simple personall application and plan to do some work on a web
with very simple databases.

Any comments on trade offs between the three?

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Kroll, Michael - 06 Apr 2006 06:18 GMT

HI,

Dave schrieb:

> I have been learning Java by just learning with the basics: notepad or
> textpad.
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>
> Any comments on trade offs between the three?

they is no answer, try it out.
Use the IDE you like.
All this IDE's are good, but which one is better is a question without
an answer.

Regards
Michael

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David Segall - 06 Apr 2006 11:21 GMT

>I have been learning Java by just learning with the basics: notepad or
>textpad.
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>
>Any comments on trade offs between the three?

Sun Java Studio Creator is not really suitable for a Java IDE. It is
intended for developing Java Server Faces applications where the user
interacts with an HTML form and the Java processing is done on a Java
Enterprise Server. This makes things _much_ more complicated than a
Java desktop application. I suggest you start with NetBeans. With any
luck the features of Java Studio Creator will be included in it by the
time you are ready to tackle a web based application.

To make your life more difficult you can find some more choices at
<http://ide.profectus.com.au> but the only IDE I would consider, apart
from your list, is Oracle's JDeveloper.

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Dave - 06 Apr 2006 16:07 GMT

Thanks all for the comments. I will also look at the Oracle ide as I did not
know of that one.

I have been playing with NetBeans and that seems to be nice.

You are all correct that there is no real answer to my query. I will
probably never tax any of the IDEs as my activities are more hobby/personal
than professional.

Dave

>>I have been learning Java by just learning with the basics: notepad or
>>textpad.
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> <http://ide.profectus.com.au> but the only IDE I would consider, apart
> from your list, is Oracle's JDeveloper.

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David Segall - 07 Apr 2006 14:51 GMT

>Thanks all for the comments. I will also look at the Oracle ide as I did not
>know of that one.
>
>I have been playing with NetBeans and that seems to be nice.

In that case, stay with it. You can spend your life looking for the
perfect IDE and never doing any Java programming. In any case, you
will be much better placed to compare IDEs once you know one of them.

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David Kerber - 06 Apr 2006 12:50 GMT

> I have been learning Java by just learning with the basics: notepad or
> textpad.
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>
> Any comments on trade offs between the three?

I found NetBeans a bit more intuitive and easy to learn, and Eclipse a
bit more flexible and maybe more powerful, though I never really pushed
NetBeans very far. I've stuck with Eclipse since trying them both, just
because that's what the other programmers in the company are using.

They are both quite good, so you really need to try them both for a week
or two to see which one suits your style better.

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Oliver Madjar - 11 Apr 2006 19:24 GMT

I prefer eclipse. It's fast, stable, free and has all the features you
need to start. I would extend it with the VE(VisualEditor) Plugin. So
you can even start with GUI. So you can create fast something good looking.
... and you can uninstll it by deleting the folder ;-).

I have tested NetBeans. It has all features included you need, but it
isn't realy fast.

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Kroll, Michael - 12 Apr 2006 05:36 GMT

Hello,

Oliver Madjar schrieb:

> I have tested NetBeans. It has all features included you need, but it
> isn't realy fast.

which Version do you have tested ?
Eclipse required a lot of plugins to do all this thing's and then it is
slower than the normal installation.

Regards
Michael

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Oliver Madjar - 12 Apr 2006 18:40 GMT

Kroll, Michael schrieb:

> Hello,
>
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> Regards
> Michael

Hallo Michael,
I use the "3.1.2 stable" on an 2Ghz Centrino notebook only extended with
VE (requires GEF and EMF) and OmondoUML. Automatic Parsing and building
is slower than without - that's true. But generated code stays
humanreadable when you mix layouting and coding.

Which plugins do you use that slows down your system?

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Mishagam - 13 Apr 2006 21:53 GMT

> Kroll, Michael schrieb:
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> Which plugins do you use that slows down your system?

Is it Eclipse version (more probable) or NetBeans version. I currently
run NetBeans 5.0. It is much better to use for Servlets, JSP, so on, -
you just use them and you can compile then and run (on integrated
Tomcat) and then use integrated debugger in JSP, for example.
But generally it is much easier and more natural to get what you want
from Eclipse. For example it was more difficult to understand which
libraries you use in NetBeans, more difficult to understand and change
which files are in project and so on.

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