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Java Forum / Tools / November 2003Best Free Java Editor?
Not 100% sure this is the correct group, but here we go. I am about to embark on learning java as I need it for an Open University Course starting in Feb, they recommended reading Ivor Horton's Begining Java 2 which arrived today. Apart from the SDK he also suggests getting a text editor aimed at Java. He suggests JCreator, any views on what its like? Would you recommend any other free editors? Thanks Rach November edition of Linux Format magazine has reviews on free Java IDEs -- Eclipse, NetBeans and JBuilder. They gave Eclipse 7/10, NetBeans 9/10 and JBuilder 8/10. > Not 100% sure this is the correct group, but here we go. I am about to > embark on learning java as I need it for an Open University Course starting [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Rach Thanks for that! Totaly Off topic is Linux format any good?? I subscribe to PC format but its endless modding and multimedia articles are putting me off. Looking fro a Linux Mag the other daya nd wondered if Linux format had the same issues > November edition of Linux Format magazine has reviews on free Java IDEs > -- Eclipse, NetBeans and JBuilder. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > > > Rach In my opinion, it's okay. Some of the stuff that it's good are pretty trivial. Some are interesting. If it is explaining something, it starts from very basic things, which is good, but it doesn't go to the deepest. I didn't subscribe to it. I flip a few pages and if I find topics that interest me, I buy it. My disappointment with the November issue is that, it has so many spelling mistakes, which annoys me. > Thanks for that! Totaly Off topic is Linux format any good?? I subscribe to > PC format but its endless modding and multimedia articles are putting me [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >>> >>>Rach > November edition of Linux Format magazine has reviews on free Java IDEs > -- Eclipse, NetBeans and JBuilder. > They gave Eclipse 7/10, NetBeans 9/10 and JBuilder 8/10. All of these are *way* overkill for a beginning Java student. All you need is a text editor, although you should have a real programmer's editor, something better than Notepad. As a Notepad replacement, I like Textpad. In fact, every Windows user should have it on their machine. > > Not 100% sure this is the correct group, but here we go. Yup, this is the place. > > I am about to > > embark on learning java as I need it for an Open University Course starting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > He suggests JCreator, any views on what its like? Would you recommend any > > other free editors? JCreator is great -- the free version is perfect for what you want to do. It's fast, very easy to use, and doesn't confuse you with a lot of crap you don't need. It keeps projects together, and lets you see everything in one window. Also, start lurking around www.javaranch.com Happy Java coding! Matt O. > > November edition of Linux Format magazine has reviews on free Java IDEs > > -- Eclipse, NetBeans and JBuilder. > > They gave Eclipse 7/10, NetBeans 9/10 and JBuilder 8/10. > > All of these are *way* overkill for a beginning Java student. That much I agree with. > All you need is a > text editor, although you should have a real programmer's editor, something > better than Notepad. As a Notepad replacement, I like Textpad. In fact, every > Windows user should have it on their machine. No. Then you saddle the beginning student with learning arcane text commands whose parameters and intricate details he has no hope of understanding until he learns the nuts and bolts of Java. And you've left him without a decent debugger. The right environment for a beginning Java student is the one designed specifically for that purpose, BlueJ (www.bluej.org). -- Dale King > Not 100% sure this is the correct group, but here we go. I am > about to embark on learning java as I need it for an Open [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He suggests JCreator, any views on what its like? Would you > recommend any other free editors? Eclipse, NetBeans or Jbuilder have already been mentioned. However, these are full-fledged IDEs and cover a lot more than just simple Java-aimed text editing. If you're starting out, I would suggest to begin with simpler tools that really force you to learn the behind-the-scene workings of Java. Some suggestions: ConTEXT Programmers Editor http://fixedsys.com/context/ JEdit http://www.jedit.org/ I don't think that JCreator is a bad start, either. It's just that it's a free version of an otherwise commercial product, and personally, I like the idea of something being totally free or even open source. But that's personal taste, so you choose. Regards, Wald "Thee_Psycho" wrote... > [Horton] suggests JCreator, any views on what its like? > Would you recommend any > other free editors? To some part it's a matter of taste, but what other background the student has is also important. Another important aspect is on which operating system you will work. If you have some experience in programming in other languages, and hence some experience in how to setup an arbitrary envirenoment, then some of these can be the best choice, as they are possible to configure for several other compilers than Java. Crimson Editor http://www.crimsoneditor.com/ ConTEXT Programmers Editor http://fixedsys.com/context/ JCreator LE has some advantage over those if you're satisfied with an environment that only copes with Java, as the installation process will be simpler, and more of it comes "preconfigured" if you already have installed the Java SDK. Netbeans, Eclipse and JBuilder are very good development environments, but since they contain so much, to a complete beginner, it's in most cases too much, and should be considered first when the student is mature enough. jEdit is also a good editor, and have absolutely an advantage over JCreator as it's open source. However, JCreator has an advantage over jEdit as it's written in C++ directly for Windows and hence much faster than any Java-equivalent. So if that's an issue JCreator is still a good recommendation. However, there's another editor that's seems promising, with all the benefits of JCreator, but doesn't seem to be "liteware": GEL http://www.gexperts.com/ The disadvantage of GEL is that it's still in Beta and contains some bugs, but it's the most promising yet of editors for Java, written for native Windows use, and unbloated. Just my 2c. Bjorn A I use JEdit , www.jedit.org > Not 100% sure this is the correct group, but here we go. I am about to > embark on learning java as I need it for an Open University Course starting [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > He suggests JCreator, any views on what its like? Would you recommend any > other free editors? If you are truly just starting out in Java, then ignore all of the other suggestions. While many of the IDE's suggested are good (I use Eclipse myself), they are not the best suited for actually learning Java. The only IDE you should consider is the one that is specifically designed for the purpose of learning Java and OO programming. That IDE is BlueJ (www.bluej.org). There are also books designed to acompany BlueJ. Check the website. -- Dale King > The only > IDE you should consider is the one that is specifically designed for the > purpose of learning Java and OO programming. That IDE is Never let anyone tell you anything is "the only" -- especially with regard to software. Matt O. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. 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