>>>When do we have drag&drop like in the simple Notepad?.
>>>It's incredible.
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> In the text editor. I like to move or copy text code without using the
> clipboard
>>>>When do we have drag&drop like in the simple Notepad?.
>>>>It's incredible.
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> how do you do that in notepad - without using the clipboard?
Indeed. I tried it just now, and was unable to drag and drop arbitrary
pieces of text in NotePad.
However, this feature DOES exist in Visual Studio -- the 2003 .NET
edition at least.
- Oliver
>>>>When do we have drag&drop like in the simple Notepad?.
>>>>It's incredible.
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> how do you do that in notepad - without using the clipboard?
Sorry, wordpad. And many others.
Oliver Wong - 15 Feb 2006 17:41 GMT
>>>>>When do we have drag&drop like in the simple Notepad?.
>>>>>It's incredible.
>
> Sorry, wordpad. And many others.
Maybe no one had asked for that feature yet. While I've seen some
co-workers use that feature in, say, Visual Studio, I've never felt the need
to use for it, and so I haven't "missed" it in Eclipse. Try filing a RFE
(Request For Enhancement) at the Eclipse forums.
- Oliver
Robert Klemme - 16 Feb 2006 10:38 GMT
>>>>> When do we have drag&drop like in the simple Notepad?.
>>>>> It's incredible.
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> Sorry, wordpad. And many others.
Note that you can use D&D with the outline view and the navigation and
package views if you want to reorder methods for example. Also, there are
a lot of refactoring functions. Personally I never felt the need for D&D
in Eclipse. Maybe you need to explore more of its features?
Cheers
robert
dingbat@codesmiths.com - 16 Feb 2006 15:14 GMT
> Sorry, wordpad. And many others.
I've used it (Visual Studio ?) and _hated_ it.
Sourcecode flies around when you move the mouse by accident. Horrible
business.
It might have a place in some sort of network diagramming tool, but
most of my time with a text editor is spent typing new stuff, not
re-arranging. The downside of an unwanted change soon outweighs any
possible convenience of slightly quicker moves when I do need it.
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:28:09 +0000, Thomas Schodt
<spamtrap@xenoc.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly
quoted someone who said :
>how do you do that in notepad - without using the clipboard?
I think the confusion comes between how it works inside vs how it
looks to the end user.
Inside, some sort of clipboard or multi-clipboard pretty well has to
be conceptualised to track the thing in the process of being moved.
It is necessarily at least a two-step operation.
Outside you might copy/paste or drag/drop. I think the OP thinks of
the second as being done without a clipboard.
In general, I find left-mouse drag and drop is a pain in the behind. I
only ever use right mouse style myself.
1. it is never fully clear if you will get a move, copy or clone in
place.
2. it seems to turn itself on by accident most of the time creating
unwanted shortcuts or scrambling text. I wish I could turn it off
entirely in TopStyle where is always not what I intended.

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Oliver Wong - 16 Feb 2006 14:38 GMT
> On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:28:09 +0000, Thomas Schodt
> <spamtrap@xenoc.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly
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> be conceptualised to track the thing in the process of being moved.
> It is necessarily at least a two-step operation.
"Using some sort of internal clipboard" might have some very real,
perceivable side effects that "Using *the* clipboard" doesn't have (and/or
vice versa). For example, let's say I cut a string "foo" into *the*
clipboard (using Control-X), and then selecting a text "bar" and drag it
around.
If the dragging uses an internal clipboard, "foo" is still in *the*
clipboard available for me to use, but if dragging uses *the* clipboard,
then my string "foo" is lost forever.
- Oliver