sun's ide is a massive download

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code_wrong - 30 Sep 2003 00:08 GMT

Sun's ide is a massive download. 168 Meg. Does it also time out and become
unusable after 60 days?
Is there a genuine freeware and smaller ide for java?
tia
cw

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nielinjie - 30 Sep 2003 04:26 GMT

go to www.eclipse.org and find a create ide

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> Sun's ide is a massive download. 168 Meg. Does it also time out and become
> unusable after 60 days?
> Is there a genuine freeware and smaller ide for java?
> tia
> cw

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David Segall - 30 Sep 2003 08:54 GMT

>Sun's ide is a massive download. 168 Meg. Does it also time out and become
>unusable after 60 days?
>Is there a genuine freeware and smaller ide for java?
>tia
>cw

You did not specify which of Sun's IDEs you were downloading. Sun One
Studio 4 Community Edition is available, without charge, from
http://jsecom16d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=FJCI9-401
-TL9M&TransactionId=try&LMLoadBalanced=
but has been superseded by Studio 5 which is only available as a time
limited trial. Sun suggest you use Netbeans if you want a free version
and Netbeans suggest you use Sun One if you want an IDE that
"possesses a clearly defined relationship to the trusted name and
service offerings of Sun Microsystems". Netbeans (www.netbeans.org) is
free and Open Source. It's a 30MB download. If you don't already have
the Java SDK the "co-bundle" is 90MB.

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code_wrong - 30 Sep 2003 11:29 GMT

> >Sun's ide is a massive download. 168 Meg. Does it also time out and become
> >unusable after 60 days?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> You did not specify which of Sun's IDEs you were downloading. Sun One
> Studio 4 Community Edition is available, without charge, from

http://jsecom16d.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet?StoreId=8&PartDetailId=FJCI9-401
-TL9M&TransactionId=try&LMLoadBalanced=

> but has been superseded by Studio 5 which is only available as a time
> limited trial. Sun suggest you use Netbeans if you want a free version
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> free and Open Source. It's a 30MB download. If you don't already have
> the Java SDK the "co-bundle" is 90MB.

Thanks for the replies guys,
I am half way through the download from Sun. It is the latest version so no
doubt its time limited as you say.
I will abort and check out the Net beans.
Meanwhile I discover I have an old coverdisk with Borland JBuilder2 trial on
it. Is this a reasonable IDE to start out on?

cheers
cw

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David Segall - 30 Sep 2003 14:09 GMT

>> >Sun's ide is a massive download. 168 Meg. Does it also time out and
>become
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>Meanwhile I discover I have an old coverdisk with Borland JBuilder2 trial on
>it. Is this a reasonable IDE to start out on?

The current version of JBuilder is 9 and there is a free download of
the Personal Edition at
http://www.borland.com/products/downloads/download_jbuilder.html. This
product is also available on CD for $US10.00 plus shipping.
Consequently, my answer to your question would be "no".

>cheers
>cw

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Roedy Green - 02 Oct 2003 19:20 GMT

>Is there a genuine freeware and smaller ide for java?

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/ide.html

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