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Roedy Green - 03 Aug 2005 08:15 GMT
I would like it if could do the following when in an IDE.

1. View my controls sorted by font. I would like to sort by face/size
or size face and see nothing else.

2. view my controls sorted by some gridbag parm such as x, y, or
gridwidth, weighx etc.

3. view my controls by colour foreground/background.

4. view my controls by type e.g. all buttons together.

5. view my control alphabetically.

6. see a simulation of the display without having to actually run real
code, perhaps in a separate small window as I make changes to the
code.

Sorting this way would make irregularities stand out, and make it
easier to make global changes without all the irrelevant stuff in the
way.

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Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon.
Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum. Rumsfeld confesses on video.
http://www.infowars.com/articles/us/mckinney_grills_rumsfeld.htm

Canadian Mind Products, Roedy Green.
See http://mindprod.com/iraq.html photos of Bush's war crimes

Dale King - 12 Aug 2005 02:56 GMT
> I would like it if could do the following when in an IDE.

I think you meant visual or UI editor. Such a component is not
necessarily a part of an IDE or in the case of Eclipse is not a part of
the IDE by default but is an optional component.

> Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon.
> Complicit Bush-friendly media keeps mum. Rumsfeld confesses on video.

Why must you continue spreading this lie?!
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Roedy Green - 12 Aug 2005 09:53 GMT
>Why must you continue spreading this lie?!

Must you continue to dispute this in the wrong forum?
Dale King - 13 Aug 2005 15:58 GMT
>>Why must you continue spreading this lie?!
>
> Must you continue to dispute this in the wrong forum?

So you should be allowed to discuss it in the wrong forum, but anyone
that tells you that you are lying and that this is the wrong forum
should not be allowed to?

The main thing I am disputing is your posting it in this forum. It's
also completely untrue, but that's a side issue.

If you don't want it discussed in this forum (as do I) then quit
discussing it!

It amazes me that the fact that there is no truth in the statment is of
no importance to you. As long as it smears someone you disagree with the
facts don't seem to matter.

I'd be happy to discuss this off this forum. The transcript of the vides
is available all over the internet. Simply email me the text of
Rusfeld's alleged confession and explain how it has anything to do with
the Bush family when at the time in question George Bush was Governor of
Texas not President.

Until you can do that please stop repeating this because:
- It is untrue
- It is not the right forum to discuss it true or not.

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Roedy Green - 14 Aug 2005 06:52 GMT
>So you should be allowed to discuss it in the wrong forum, but anyone
>that tells you that you are lying and that this is the wrong forum
>should not be allowed to?

I have heard C-span is going to spend a whole day rehashing this.
Perhaps that will settle the matter.
Dale King - 16 Aug 2005 05:34 GMT
>>So you should be allowed to discuss it in the wrong forum, but anyone
>>that tells you that you are lying and that this is the wrong forum
>>should not be allowed to?
>
> I have heard C-span is going to spend a whole day rehashing this.
> Perhaps that will settle the matter.

So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie.

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Roedy Green - 17 Aug 2005 05:27 GMT
>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie.

f.ck you. I heard the video clip. You did not.
Dale King - 06 Sep 2005 03:36 GMT
>>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie.
>
> f.ck you.

Oh, what an intelligent come back! I ask you for a simple quote to back
up the lie that you have repeated hundreds of times now and I get
insulted. I know you are used to those who will believe anything as long
as it bashes Bush, but I won't oblige.

> I heard the video clip. You did not.

No, because the site you listed did not exist. But I have read the
transcript, which you have not refuted as being an inaccurate account of
the video. I posted the link to the transcript which contains nothing
like what you said it does.

So all I asked of you to was to:

- provide the quote where Rumsfeld "confesses" to the embezzelment of
trillions of dollars (even though the money is missing from before he
was secretary of defense).
- explain how these funds were somehow linked to Bush while he was
Governor of Texas.

- or you could admit that it is a lie and apologize to the group.

Since it appears that you are no longer repeating the lie then it looks
like you wimped out and refuse to admit that you have been spamming this
group with off-topic lies.

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Roedy Green - 06 Sep 2005 11:35 GMT
> I ask you for a simple quote to back
>up the lie that you have repeated hundreds of times now and I get
>insulted. I know you are used to those who will believe anything as long
>as it bashes Bush, but I won't oblige.

One more time.  See http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqeconomics.html

My complaint is that you have repeatedly refused to look at the
material I have presented and accused me of making up the video.

Further I can't stand it that someone who is not a drooling idiot
could possibly be an apologist for that bastard Bush.

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http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts.

Dale King - 07 Sep 2005 02:06 GMT
>>I ask you for a simple quote to back
>>up the lie that you have repeated hundreds of times now and I get
>>insulted. I know you are used to those who will believe anything as long
>>as it bashes Bush, but I won't oblige.
>
> One more time.  See http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqeconomics.html

Oh, I see that there is more than links there. I didn't scroll down.
Please be more specific with your link.

OK, so the only quote I see there are not the words of Donald Rumsfeld.
I still see no "confession". You rightly claim that they do not dispute
it. They said they were working on it and will get back to them. That
does not qualify as a "confession".

And on the page you repeat the lie by saying that "Bush presided over a
$3 trillion dollar embezzlement and covered it up." Once again during
the period in question George Bush was Governor of Texas and did not
preside over anything concerning the Pentagon. The fact is that Bill
Clinton presided over the loss (or at least misaccounting) of trillions
of dollars from the Pentagon. Whether this was embezzelment, I have no
knowledge so will not make unfounded accusations. The fact that Donald
Rumsfeld cannot answer for what happened before he took office is not at
all surprising to me and certainly does not qualify as a "confession".

> My complaint is that you have repeatedly refused to look at the
> material I have presented and accused me of making up the video.

I have never claimed that you made up the video. I claim that the video
does not contain a confession by Donald Rumsfeld of anything.

> Further I can't stand it that someone who is not a drooling idiot
> could possibly be an apologist for that bastard Bush.

Please stop the ad hominem attacks. This is a question of facts.

And have not been an apologist for anyone here. My political views are
off-topic because I have not expressed any political views here for or
against anyone. I have simply called you on your incorrect facts.
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Roedy Green - 06 Sep 2005 12:05 GMT
> provide the quote where Rumsfeld "confesses" to the embezzelment of
>trillions of dollars (even though the money is missing from before he
>was secretary of defense).

That is not what I claimed.

I said that the administration admits there are trillions MISSING, not
that Rumsfeld admits to stealing it.  Rumsfeld effectively confessed
to a presiding over one massive fuckup/theft, not that he was the
beneficiary.

You have also hinted that the video I talk of is a figment of my
imagination even though there are several references to it on the net.
Obviously, it was available at one point.  You were out of the loop at
the time and did not bother to view it. That does not mean it never
existed.

You have had troubles getting through to a site I can get to.  You
blame me for making up a fictitious site rather than some problem with
your own connection, or some party blocking you.  You did no research,
you just accused.

If you are going to accuse me of being a liar in future, please state
clearly the particular lie QUOTING IT.

Further, please get out your dictionary and refresh yourself on the
differences between me saying:

1. something you disagree with.
2. something untrue.
3. a lie.

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http://mindprod.com Again taking new Java programming contracts.

Dale King - 07 Sep 2005 02:37 GMT
>>provide the quote where Rumsfeld "confesses" to the embezzelment of
>>trillions of dollars (even though the money is missing from before he
>>was secretary of defense).
>
> That is not what I claimed.

No, what you claimed was:

"Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon...Rumsfeld
confesses on video."

> I said that the administration admits there are trillions MISSING, not
> that Rumsfeld admits to stealing it.

And there is no admission or "confession" on video. There may be
trillions missing. I haven't disputed whether or not there is missing
money. Claiming that it was embezzeled is going beyond the known facts,
however.

> Rumsfeld effectively confessed
> to a presiding over one massive fuckup/theft, not that he was the
> beneficiary.

Saying "we'll get back to you on that" is not a confession. And once
again at the time in question Donald Rumsfeld was presiding over a
pharmaceutical company, not the Pentagon.

> You have also hinted that the video I talk of is a figment of my
> imagination even though there are several references to it on the net.

No, I said the link you provided was not valid. And to this day the link
is still not valid for me.

I have never claimed that the video you were linking to did not itself
exist. I even provided a link to a written transcript of it. Your
characterization of what the video contained does appear to be a figment
of your imagination.

> Obviously, it was available at one point.

But was not available at the point that you insulted someone for not
going to view it.

> You were out of the loop at
> the time and did not bother to view it. That does not mean it never
> existed.

Once again I never claimed that there was no video. Here exactly is what
I said: "Actually the URL is not valid. There is no infowars.com. But I
found the transcript on another site and ..."

See the word URL, not video. See how in the same breath I talk about a
transcript of what was in the video.

> You have had troubles getting through to a site I can get to.  You
> blame me for making up a fictitious site rather than some problem with
> your own connection, or some party blocking you.  You did no research,
> you just accused.

I see no accusation in what I quoted. You told Hal Rosser, "Follow the
URL. Rumsfeld Confesses." And I tell you that the URL is not valid (as
it still is not). It is rather insulting to tell someone to follow the
URL when the URL leads nowhere.

> If you are going to accuse me of being a liar in future, please state
> clearly the particular lie QUOTING IT.

I've only addressed the one lie and I DID quote it. I quoted it again in
this message. Since your memory appears to be failing here is the lie
once again:

"Bush crime family lost/embezzled $3 trillion from Pentagon...Rumsfeld
confesses on video."

> Further, please get out your dictionary and refresh yourself on the
> differences between me saying:

You forgot #4 Way off-topic for this newsgroup which is the primary
complaint.

> 1. something you disagree with.

I have no trouble with you saying something I disagree with if it is
on-topic for the newsgroup. If it is as far off-topic and controversial
as this was it makes no difference if I agree with it or not, it doesn't
belong here.

> 2. something untrue.
> 3. a lie.

The difference being that if you knowingly tell something untrue with
purpose to deceive (particularly with malicious intent) then it
definitely qualifies as a lie. I showed that it was untrue and you
continued to repeat it, therefore my calling it a lie is well-founded.
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Roedy Green - 17 Aug 2005 05:36 GMT
>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie

Other Bush supporters have the excuse of brain damage, alcoholism or
terminally low IQ. You do not. Lord knows what your motive is for
sucking up to that creep.

Have a look. It is not just me saying these thing.

See http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqeconomics.html

You are calling the auditor general and the WallStreet Journal a liar
too.
Dale King - 06 Sep 2005 03:44 GMT
>>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie
>
> Other Bush supporters have the excuse of brain damage, alcoholism or
> terminally low IQ. You do not. Lord knows what your motive is for
> sucking up to that creep.

Now you resort to personal attacks. And I know what your motive is.
Blind, unswerving hatred. It doesn't really matter what the facts are to
you.

> Have a look. It is not just me saying these thing.
>
> See http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqeconomics.html

Oh, I've been to your propaganda site. It reminds me a lot of the
National Enquirer in terms of your journalistic standards. And there are
many grotesque, offensive pictures of war casualties that are
inappropriate for you to link to without providing warnings.

> You are calling the auditor general and the WallStreet Journal a liar
> too.

I have done nothing of the kind. I have never mentioned them. I have
only called you a liar and challenged you to prove me wrong. Since you
have not done so then that leads me to only one conclusion.
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Roedy Green - 17 Aug 2005 07:21 GMT
>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie.

I have come up with lots of quotes. You just won't read them. You have
sleep walked through the years since 9/113.  I have made it almost my
full time occupation staying on top of events.

Catch up. Read some books. Learn what an absolutely evil bastard you
are supporting.

See http://mindprod.com/politics/bushbooks.html
Dale King - 06 Sep 2005 04:25 GMT
>>So I take it then that you can't come up with the requested quote that
>>backs up your claim. Therefore please stop repeating the lie.
>
> I have come up with lots of quotes. You just won't read them.

Sorry, I haven't yet seen that post or email with the quote of the
confession and explanation of how the loss of trillions of dollars
during the Clinton administration has anything to do with Bush.

> You have
> sleep walked through the years since 9/11.

We were dealing with the lie about this supposed "confession" of
embezzelment. The timeframe of the missing trillions was fiscal year
1999 and 2000 which predates 9/11. Unlike you I will actually quote what
was said by Congresswoman McKinney:

"That's my first question. My second question, Mr. Secretary: according
to the Comptroller General of the United States, there are serious
financial management problems at the Pentagon, to which Mr. Cooper alluded.

"Fiscal Year 1999: $2.3 trillion missing.

"Fiscal Year 2000, $1.1 trillion missing."

You claim that the Bush "crime family" embezzeled this money and that
Rumsfeld confesses on video. George Bush became president in January
2001 and Rumsfeld became Secretary of State at that time as well. In
1999 and 2000, Bush was Governor of Texas and Rumsfeld was Chairman of
the Board of Gilead Sciences, Inc., a pharmaceutical company. That's an
awfully far stretch from the Pentagon to a governor and the chairman of
a pharmaceutical company.

Oh, and to be complete on the subject, here is the only statement by
Rumsfeld in regards to the missing trillions (which once again took
place before he ever took office):

"We, We will get back on both of the first two questions..."

Doesn't sound much like a "confession" to me.

> I have made it almost my
> full time occupation staying on top of events.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> See http://mindprod.com/politics/bushbooks.html

I can only deal with one of your lies at a time.

The point of all of this was the fact that it was off-topic and did not
belong in this group. I'm not trying to change your opinions. You have
already proven that no amount of truth will change your mind and your
site shows that you will believe anything no matter how ludicrous as
long as it promotes your hatred of the man.

So please don't start dragging even more off-topic stuff into the group.
Let's stick with the single lie that you found important enough to
repeat hundreds of times in this group.

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