i am starting to hate eclipse

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farseer - 19 Jul 2005 20:12 GMT

I hate to say it, but that may be the case from a long time user.
i'll get to my main issue..but first a complaint about the eclipse.org
website.

Trying to find where to post a question regarding issues with eclipse
is quite cumbersome at eclipse.org due to:
-the number of news groups are numerous, but apparently most relating
to the project itself, and none seems to clearly indicate where users
should go to ask questions related to usability
-if you forget your login or password, you must apply for a new one.
for users that do not often have questions, this is often the case.
-if you enter an invalid login or password, you can't try again unless
you clear out your cookies
-if you try to leave feedback or use their "write" link after the above
occurs, and you spend a while composing a nice long list of concerns
with the site, when you finally go to submit, it tells you "The
newsserver does not accept the message". why the F have the form
available there in the first place????

anyway, my problem.
ECLIPSE is SLOW! i am using 3.1 on a large scale project. At times,
even if i highlight text to cut & paste, it will pause for what seems
forever (more like 5 to 20 seconds, but seems like forever). it
appears eclipse is always trying to do SOMETHING in the background that
is causing it to slow significantly. trying to do context sensitive
lookup of methods is impossible at times. this is REALLY
counterproductive, as what should takes 1 minutes, takes about 5
mintues with all these pauses. i have gone thru and tried disabling
all that i could find...but to no avail

Is there a way to turn all background process off and just use eclipse
for as an editor?

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Costin - 26 Jul 2005 15:22 GMT

Hi!

I agree with you...sometimes Eclipse is doing something else..and "sleeps"
few moments.
I've found this plug-in that might help a little bit called "keepresident".
You can find it at sourceforge.net ( I think ). It prevents windows ( or
OS ) to replace eclipse from memory with some other application. Kind of a
"reserve" the memory.
In my case it worked..but still I don't have a very big project.

> I hate to say it, but that may be the case from a long time user.
> i'll get to my main issue..but first a complaint about the eclipse.org
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> Is there a way to turn all background process off and just use eclipse
> for as an editor?

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apka - 27 Jul 2005 08:38 GMT

Hi,

Thanks, I was facing the same problem... I have placed this plugin,
lets see how it works...

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E.Otter - 27 Jul 2005 21:25 GMT

"keepresident" sounds promosing, I'll certainly look at that.

Also, here's 3 things that might help.
1) Your PC's antivirus program. My employer forces us to use McAfee
Enterprise Antivirus. Anytime anything Java is loaded (Eclipse, an applet
on a web page), McAfee consumes 90%+ of the CPU and brings my laptop to its
knees. With the Antivirus, I start Eclipse and maybe 6+ minutes later I can
finally work... Without the antivirus in memory, I start Eclipse and can
start programming in under a minute. Sometimes I have to shutdown the
antivirus in order to work at all.

2) At least with the 3.1 beta's, if you work on any classes in the "default"
package (no package definition in class/interface), the performance is
retchingly bad. Move the same class into any package (mystuff.test) and
things get much, much faster. No idea why.

3) Big projects or lots of projects in the same workspace do use lots of
memory. I discovered that in 3.1 there is a "Switch Workspace" command on
the File menu. So if you break up the big project or workspace into smaller
chunks and put each chunk into a separate workspace, you can still reference
them from each other but less is loaded into memory. Of course you can only
work on 1 workspace at a time and preferences aren't shared between the
workspaces.

My two cents worth and that's overpriced,
E.Otter

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Robert Klemme - 05 Aug 2005 12:14 GMT

One reason for frequent pauses can be GC. Default mem is just 64MB which is
not much for an IDE. You can try to use VM command line options for
increasing memory and using incremental GC which prevents pauses caused by
GC

<path>\eclipse.exe -vmargs -Xmx350m -Xincgc

See also http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/java.html

Kind regards

robert

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abc@123.com - 05 Aug 2005 19:00 GMT

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> > anyway, my problem.
> > ECLIPSE is SLOW! i am using 3.1 on a large scale project. At times,
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> See also http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/java.html

A slight segue but I find I get frequent hangs debugging a program using
JBuilderX that seem to be some sort of event/tcp/socket starvation... if
I run anotehr app, e.g. a mailer, that performs some network i/o the builder
unhangs and continues... for a while... then I need to repeat the cycle. Or
am I missing something obvious that I should be doing instead.....?

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