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IE Crashes

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benoit.isaac@gmail.com - 26 Jan 2006 14:30 GMT
Hello all,

It seems that there is a problem when upgrading to JRE 1.5 with the
Java plug-in for Internet Explorer.
On an XP computer with JRE 1.4.2_02, after having installed JDK 1.5.0
update 5, Internet Explorer crashes when loading the Java Plug-in.
It seems that this bug has a workaround described here :
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/relnotes.html#generaldeployment
and bug :
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4930673.html

But when I try to remove the user deployment.properties file, and
relaunch IE on a webpage with an applet, I receive a "Java plug-in
warning" saying that I should change my version of Java plug-in for
Netscape ! (And no Netscape is installed on the computer).
By clicking "No, I don't want to upgrade", IE works for a while (asking
the same question with the pop-up for every reload of a webpage with a
Java applet).
But after any reboot, the deployment.properties is erased and replaced
by the system one, and the bug appears again: IE crashes.

Any ideas ? (apart from removing the JRE 1.4.2 )

Thanks a lot
Michael Redlich - 26 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT
> Any ideas ? (apart from removing the JRE 1.4.2 )

How about removing IE, and installing Mozilla Firefox 1.5
(http://www.mozilla.org/).  It's a much better browser than IE, and
it's supposed to be more secure...

Mike.

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benoit.isaac@gmail.com - 27 Jan 2006 09:45 GMT
> > Any ideas ? (apart from removing the JRE 1.4.2 )
>
> How about removing IE, and installing Mozilla Firefox 1.5
> (http://www.mozilla.org/).  It's a much better browser than IE, and
> it's supposed to be more secure...

Ok, Ok... I should have said "Any ideas ? (apart from removing the JRE
1.4.2 or IE)"

Removing IE is not an option for me; IE is the standard in the company,
and I don't think asking to change thousands of computers' browser is
an option to solve my JRE 1.5 problem (since the program is not going
to run on those thousands of computers)...

Any other idea ? Did somebody get the same behaviour ?
Michael Redlich - 27 Jan 2006 18:08 GMT
> Removing IE is not an option for me; IE is the standard in the company,
> and I don't think asking to change thousands of computers' browser is
> an option to solve my JRE 1.5 problem (since the program is not going
> to run on those thousands of computers)...
>
> Any other idea ? Did somebody get the same behaviour ?

Oh...I didn't realize that you are dealing with this issue at work.
Sorry 'bout that...

Hmmm, I don't remember having any difficulty with Java plug-ins in IE.
But then again, based on what the release notes stated:

"Internet Explorer will hang if an applet displays a UI component in
its stop() or destroy() method and a user triggers stop() or destroy()
by pressing the Back or Refresh button in the brower."

I may have just been lucky in that regard.  Just out of curiosity, what
version of IE is your company using?  Are the plug-ins that are giving
you difficulty developed in-house?

I, too, have no choice in browser at work.  We are "stuck" with IE 6.0,
but I primarily use Mozilla Firefox at home.  However, I still need to
use IE at home sometimes since any web sites developed in the .NET
framework may not operate correctly...

Mike.

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Roedy Green - 27 Jan 2006 10:45 GMT
>No, I don't want to upgrade",

I take it your question could be put, "how do I get to stop asking for
updates."

IRRC when you install or in the Java control panel it asks if how you
want updates handled. With a bit of experimenting you should be able
figure out what it sets up in the registry to control this, then write
a small C or Java program to poke the registry and ask you people to
run it.

I suppose you could also ask them to run the 1.5.0_06 install if that
would work too.
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