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> It's a mix of API and trick questions. I suggest memorising the API of
> the bits mentioned in the syllabus and reading through the Java Language
> Spec. Then just make sure you read the questions thoroughly.
That's not at all my recollection. I haven't taken the cert for a long
time (and I believe it was 1.3 when I did), but what I recall is this:
- The best source is the Java Language Specification
- There are very few API questions on the test; it's all language, and
the APIs that are tested are the truly core ones (stuff like Thread,
System, Object, etc.)
- The questions are sometimes difficult, but always straightforward and
well written.
- Preparation web sites tend to contain a lot of poor and/or trick
questions, but the actual test had none of that.
I therefore reached the conclusion that cert books and web sites I'd
seen were not very useful. They help some with preparation, but waste a
lot of time on ridiculous questions like "how many objects are eligible
for garbage collection at line D?"
Basically, if you're the kind of person who just likes to "get stuff
done", or who dislikes reading a specification, or really lives by the
80/20 rule (that knowing the most common 20% of the specification will
be good enough for solving 80% of real-world problems), then you will
have problems with the cert. If you really learn and know the language,
including at least one reading of the language spec, then you'll have no
problems at all. IIRC, I finished with a percentage in the high 90s,
and something ludicrously low -- around 60% -- is required for a passing
score.

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Oliver Wong - 21 Sep 2005 21:34 GMT
> - Preparation web sites tend to contain a lot of poor and/or trick
> questions, but the actual test had none of that.
Note that these preparation sites have a motivation into making you feel
like you're not ready so as to get you to spend more money to receive
training from them.
- Oliver
Thomas Hawtin - 21 Sep 2005 21:53 GMT
> That's not at all my recollection. I haven't taken the cert for a long
> time (and I believe it was 1.3 when I did), but what I recall is this:
I think it skipped from 1.2 to 1.4. I have been told that the 1.4 test
was much more difficult than the earlier test, but I have seen neither.
> - There are very few API questions on the test; it's all language, and
> the APIs that are tested are the truly core ones (stuff like Thread,
> System, Object, etc.)
It's a bit wider than that. Collections in particular. The objectives
document is quite specific on the API side of things.
Tom Hawtin

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E11 - 22 Sep 2005 02:01 GMT
Thanks for all the reply. :)
I did try reading the JLS once, and got to about halfway before i found
it too dry to absorb. Well, i'll finish reading it then if that's what
i have to do. But anything after that? I would feel more comfortable if
i also go through some material that targets specifically at the exam.
A few sites that i visited seems to recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0072226846/qid=1127350341/sr=1-1/r
ef=sr_1_1/002-1234262-2145624?v=glance&s=books
Any of you gone through the book before? What do you think? Would it be
value for money? (Note that i also intend to take the Developer exam
sometime after the Programmer exam.)
Side track: Any idea if the 5.0 version of the Developer exam will be
out soon? Right now its only up to 1.4.
Thanks and Regards,
Edwin