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Help requested for MSc Dissertation Survey

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Jeremy Russell - 18 Feb 2005 09:27 GMT
I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
the relative advantages of learning Java using an Integrated
Development Environment when compared to using a text editor for
creating code. The survey has thirteen questions only, which should
take you less than five minutes to answer.

Answers to all questions are optional, your responses will remain
strictly confidential and will be used as part of a summary in my
final dissertation only.

If you can help, please visit this URL to complete the survey:

http://www.jeremyrussell.co.uk/studentsurvey.jsp

Thanks in advance

Jeremy Russell
Karsten Baumgarten - 18 Feb 2005 09:48 GMT
> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jeremy Russell

I tried to help, but your web form refuses to cooperate (see below). :)

Column not found, message from server: "Unknown column 'count0' in
'field list'"

com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1977)

Signature

Regards,

Karsten

Nico - 18 Feb 2005 11:18 GMT
Same here,
Column not found, message from server: "Unknown column 'count0' in
'field list'"

com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1977)
Jeremy Russell - 18 Feb 2005 14:06 GMT
Hi all,

Yes I had a problem (aka error) and yes, I've fixed it now.

Please have another go - you might need to use a different URL, to
bypass the cookie check:

http://www.jeremyrussell.co.uk/studentsurveyquestion.jsp

There was one question that was causing this problem.  Typically, it
was the very last question, which only caused this problem if you
helpfully replied "Y" to "May I contact you again?"

I think I already learnt something from this experience

1) Test everything thoroughly and then test it again.

2) Sod's Law says that "it goes wrong for helpful folks"

3) I should really learn to code.

My apologies and thanks for your patience, all

Jeremy

>I tried to help, but your web form refuses to cooperate (see below). :)
>
>Column not found, message from server: "Unknown column 'count0' in
>'field list'"
>
>com.mysql.jdbc.MysqlIO.checkErrorPacket(MysqlIO.java:1977)

>> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
>> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>
>> Jeremy Russell
Karsten Baumgarten - 18 Feb 2005 15:07 GMT
> Hi all,
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
> Jeremy

Seems to work now. And by the way: shame on you for not making Eclipse
an option in the IDE comboboxes. ;)

--
Regards,
Karsten
Fred - 18 Feb 2005 15:25 GMT
Or IntelliJ.
Jeremy Russell - 18 Feb 2005 20:45 GMT
>Or IntelliJ.

Only 2 of 24 thus far ... compared to 8 for Eclipse
Jeremy Russell - 18 Feb 2005 20:34 GMT
>> Hi all,
>>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>Seems to work now. And by the way: shame on you for not making Eclipse
>an option in the IDE comboboxes. ;)

Well, I figured I'd leave something to enter into the 'other' box ...
Eclipse does seem to have been the most popular 'other' thus far.
Seamus - 18 Feb 2005 16:38 GMT
Note : it would be difficult to have used Java for "more than 10 years"
as it was publically released on May 23, 1995. It was available for d/l
before that (late 1994), but of limited interest.
Wiseguy - 18 Feb 2005 19:06 GMT
"Seamus" <zawadzki@yahoo.com> scribbled on the stall wall:
> Note : it would be difficult to have used Java for "more than 10 years"
> as it was publically released on May 23, 1995. It was available for d/l
> before that (late 1994), but of limited interest.

Reminds me of late 90s job ads asking for five or seven years experience on
win95.  1997-1995=two to three years...People who write job ads can be such
morons.  I remember another one where they asked for someone with
experience configuring modums.
jeremy.russell@liverpool.ac.uk - 18 Feb 2005 20:41 GMT
>"Seamus" <zawadzki@yahoo.com> scribbled on the stall wall:
>> Note : it would be difficult to have used Java for "more than 10 years"
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>morons.  I remember another one where they asked for someone with
>experience configuring modums.

Fair point - I do enjoy reading typo's in job ads.  I figured ten
years+ was acceptable as an option, since as you say the language has
been around just about that long.  Thus far, no-one has claimed that
much experience, which is encouraging.

JR
modmans2ndcoming - 24 Feb 2005 07:07 GMT
reminds me of a job request I cam across back in 1999. "applicant must
have 10 or more years experience in all of the following: C++, Visual
basic, Data base application development or Java" some times I feel
that the PHBs do not really know what they are talking about.... hmm...
:-)
Dan Hinojosa - 18 Feb 2005 23:55 GMT
> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jeremy Russell

What if I didn't take a class?
jeremy.russell@liverpool.ac.uk - 19 Feb 2005 07:06 GMT
My dissertation is intended to compare the relative benefits of
learning in a class with or without an IDE; however, if you would like
to answer based on your presumably self-taught experience, that'll be
equally helpful.

I've amended the wording very slightly to account for that.

>> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
>> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
>What if I didn't take a class?
Dan Hinojosa - 19 Feb 2005 19:10 GMT
> My dissertation is intended to compare the relative benefits of
> learning in a class with or without an IDE; however, if you would like
> to answer based on your presumably self-taught experience, that'll be
> equally helpful.
>
> I've amended the wording very slightly to account for that.

Thanks, because when I was learning it, no one was teaching it.
spam - 19 Feb 2005 05:21 GMT
>I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
>Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Jeremy Russell

Why is C++/C# an option in prior languages instead of C/C++. C# has
nothing to do with C ++?
jeremy.russell@liverpool.ac.uk - 19 Feb 2005 07:07 GMT
You're right, I changed that.  What I'm really trying to establish
with that question is whether a respondent had prior OO experience
before taking on Java.

>>I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
>>Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>Why is C++/C# an option in prior languages instead of C/C++. C# has
>nothing to do with C ++?
Roland - 19 Feb 2005 09:10 GMT
> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Jeremy Russell

I got the following error message on studentsurveyresponse.jsp (after
submitting results on studentsurveyquestion.jsp)
> Something has gone wrong with the survey. Further details are shown below.
>
> String index out of range: 500
>
> java.lang.String.substring(String.java:1441)
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Regards,

Roland de Ruiter
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jeremy.russell@liverpool.ac.uk - 19 Feb 2005 13:39 GMT
Dammit.  Sorry, I think that's fixed now.

I've received 40 responses thus far and would like to thank all the
responders for their help!

>> I'm carrying out a survey as part of my dissertation for an MSc in
>> Information Technology at the University of Liverpool. I'm researching
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>
>> java.lang.String.substring(String.java:1441)
modmans2ndcoming - 24 Feb 2005 07:03 GMT
Seems a bit unscientific wouldn't you say? did your prof. approve this
methodology?
jeremy.russell@liverpool.ac.uk - 25 Feb 2005 06:20 GMT
>Seems a bit unscientific wouldn't you say? did your prof. approve this
>methodology?

As a part of this study, yep.
John McGrath - 25 Feb 2005 19:16 GMT
> The survey has thirteen questions only, which should take you less
> than five minutes to answer.

A number of the questions make assumptions that are not necessarily true.
For example, questions 3 and 4 ask about "your first Java Programming
class", which assumes that the person has taken a Java programming class.

> Answers to all questions are optional,

How is that?  How does one set a combo box to "no answer", when all of the
choices are not appropriate, even the default choice?

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Regards,

John McGrath



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