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Help with beginning Java web programming?

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Jeffrey.Rodriguez@gmail.com - 17 Jan 2005 21:53 GMT
I'm interested in beginning Java web programming but I'm unsure as to
where to start and what I have read has only managed to confuse me.

First:
What should I learn if I want to develop a Java web application?

Second:
I've heard many names thrown around and need some help making sense
of it all. What is/are Jakarta, Struts, Tomcat, EJB/Hibernate, Ant,
JSP, Servelets and how do they relate to each other?

Third:
I've heard that JSP is for seperating presentation and application
logic, how do I process the form a user sends in? A 'Checkout' button
on a shopping cart would be a good example. Do I use JSP, a servelet,
other?
Thanasis \(sch\) - 17 Jan 2005 22:07 GMT
i suggest to begin with book "Head First Java". It is perfect for newbies.

> I'm interested in beginning Java web programming but I'm unsure as to
> where to start and what I have read has only managed to confuse me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> on a shopping cart would be a good example. Do I use JSP, a servelet,
> other?
Bob Kranson - 18 Jan 2005 04:31 GMT
> First:
> What should I learn if I want to develop a Java web application?

Servlets.  JSP's translate to servlets at runtime.

> Second:
> I've heard many names thrown around and need some help making sense
> of it all. What is/are:
> Jakarta
Open Source projects

> Struts
Model View Controller implementation to seperate logic, data, presentation;
under an open source project....

> Tomcat
Open source web server that includes java support

> EJB
Enterprise Java Beans.  Middleware for java.  Design by contract by
fulfilling the specification of EJB you wish to implement

>Hibernate
Middleware approach different (understand to be easier than) EJB.
** Note: you must understand the concepts of a transaction to properly apply
design and implement the above two acronymns

> Ant,
Another Tool for Make files, but greatly expanded with tasks for doing just
about everything to build large/small application with a script

> JSP
Java Server Pages which compile to servlets

>Servlets
Java which compiles at runtime and outputs HTML to the HTTP server port

>and how do they relate to each other?
In what you build surely available in volumes, volumes, and more volumes of
internet and printed publication :-}

> Third:
> I've heard that JSP is for seperating presentation and application
> logic, how do I process the form a user sends in? A 'Checkout' button
> on a shopping cart would be a good example. Do I use JSP, a servelet,
> other?

Learn Struts methodology!!

Good luck!

> I'm interested in beginning Java web programming but I'm unsure as to
> where to start and what I have read has only managed to confuse me.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> on a shopping cart would be a good example. Do I use JSP, a servelet,
> other?
Hal Rosser - 18 Jan 2005 23:05 GMT
Here are some good book that will get you started from square 1
First book is Beginning Java
http://www.murach.com/books/jav5/index.htm

someone else also mentioned "Head First Java" - its a good book as well.

And this book gets into JSP and Servlets:
http://www.murach.com/books/jsps/index.htm

Also, always use the tutorials and API documentation at
http://java.sun.com/

There are many good books and many online sources - this could get you
started.


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