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Java Forum / First Aid / March 2004Platform/OS used to develop Java?
I have developed the on-line compiler futher, it now delivers .zip files containing the source, class files and a few HTML docs etcetera. The files I am writing are largely Windows oriented (the dev files are .bat files for instance) and the HTML is 'optimised' for IE 6. This leads me to the question.. Is there anybody here seeking answers that are using an OS _other_ than Windows? What about browsers - IE? BTW, you can see an example of the file (15Kb) here.. <http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip>  SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology > I have developed the on-line compiler > futher, it now delivers .zip files [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > BTW, you can see an example of the file (15Kb) here.. <http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip> Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online compiler yet :) As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? SignatureKind regards, Christophe Vanfleteren >> I have developed the on-line compiler >> futher, >> ...the HTML >> is 'optimised' for IE 6. ... > <http://www.physci.org/public_compile/a_I7EX5w_pYfJAnimateFrame/JAnimateFrame.zip> ... > Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online > compiler yet :) > > As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate > alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? The HTML I am using is frames based, it uses the target attribute of the <a> tag to send 'documents' to the main content window. The 'documents' I am showing are actually the file system, directories within the project. IE shows these as directories, the way Windows iteslf would, but Gecko based browsers (in my case Mozilla) display the same directories as file listings in the way a server with directory listing enabled might display it. In IE you can 'double click' a .bat file to run it, but Gecko based browsers simply display the .bat file in the browser's 'content' frame. So I am wonderring if I can get away with this (sloppy) way of doing things, that is, advise 'This works best with IE'. ( Could you here my teeth grinding as I wrote that? ) SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology .. > Konqueror on KDE here, but I haven't exactly had the need to try the online > compiler yet :) Well, _next_ time your a noob learning Java.. ;-) > As for the 'optimised for IE6' html, it seems that your pages validate > alright, so it shouldn't really be a problem, should it? Aaah.. interesting comment. I had not known of the validator when I was writing such pages as.. <http://www.physci.org/1/default.html> I had not used framesets since I had been writing new (valid) pages recently. When I threw my (frameset) attempts at the validator it revealed ..a few problems. Most of them are now fixed, but one that I have decided to ignore is that border='0' -> border not an attribute.. (shrugs) I have not encountered a browser that does not understand that and render it as I want, so I am not especially fussed. SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology > This leads me to the question.. > Is there anybody here seeking answers > that are using an OS _other_ than > Windows? I use OS X. > What about browsers - IE? Never. I use Safari 99.5% of the time. Netscape the rest. |\/| /| |2 |< mehaase(at)sas(dot)upenn(dot)edu >> This leads me to the question.. >> Is there anybody here seeking answers [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Never. I use Safari 99.5% of the time. Netscape the rest. ..hmmm. Your answers on other occasions (and in other groups) suggest that you are beyond the stage of 'how do I set the classpath?' type questions. Would that assessment be correct Mark?* [ * Other than the code and classes, most of what my files enable is compiling, running, jarring ang javadocing from the command line. I am guessing that you are beyond needing that sort of help. ] SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology > ..hmmm. Your answers on other occasions > (and in other groups) suggest that you > are beyond the stage of 'how do I set > the classpath?' type questions. Would > that assessment be correct Mark?* Probably. > [ * Other than the code and classes, most > of what my files enable is compiling, > running, jarring ang javadocing from > the command line. I am guessing that > you are beyond needing that sort of help. ] Oops. I didn't realize you were trying to figure out what *newbies* are using to develop/test. I think Win/IE is pretty fair to assume. |\/| /| |2 |< mehaase(at)sas(dot)upenn(dot)edu I am asking for the help of the people who need help from this group. (please read on) >> ..I am guessing that >> you are beyond needing that sort of help. ] > > Oops. I didn't realize you were trying to figure out what *newbies* are > using to develop/test. (chuckles) I must work on my communications skills. Thus far, the only two people to respond were ..anything but people at the first stages of Java. > I think Win/IE is pretty fair to assume. Thanks. I'd like to actually hear some of _them_ say so as well. So, come on folks, this is going to become a very Windows oriented 'starter kit' for little code projects, unless anybody chimes in with an OS/Browser combination that I had not counted on. Can you help me out here? What browser/OS do you use, is it Win/IE as we suspect? SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology I am in the very early stages of learning java. I have a couple of computers that I'm using. I use Netscape on both and both are win OS. One is running Win98se, the other Win2K. David > I am asking for the help of the people > who need help from this group. > I am in the very early stages of learning java. I have a couple of > computers that I'm using. I use Netscape on both and both are win OS. > One is running Win98se, the other Win2K. Thanks David. :-) What version/s of Netscape are you running? Would it be the older 4.x Netscape or the more modern NN 6 which is based around the Gecko/Mozilla engine? (..some other v. again?) Hi Andrew, I am using Netscape 7.1 on both computers. It is based on the Mozilla engine. I do still have Netscape Commander 4.1 if you need someone to look at the pages and let you know how they look. Off topic. Andrew, what do you think of Jbulider as a development tool for a java novice? David > What version/s of Netscape are > you running? Would it be the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > (..some other v. again?) > Hi Andrew, > > I am using Netscape 7.1 on both computers. It is based on the Mozilla > engine. Yep. So I expect it would act like Moz and open the directories as 'file lists' >..I do still have Netscape Commander 4.1 if you need someone to > look at the pages and let you know how they look. It's cool, if I can get it to work at all on NN 4.78 I'll be happy (I have that installed) > Off topic. Andrew, what do you think of Jbulider as a development tool > for a java novice? I promote that starters use the command line until they understand classpaths, invoking a class and jar with arguments and such. ..There are a lot of different views on that though, some of the recommendations I have heard recently are jEdit and jCreator(?) while Eclipse is well favoured, and Netbeans for those that like to 'drag-n-drop' things (though U think there is a GUI designer plug-in for eclipse). Of those, I have used Eclipse (which is pretty slick) but am currently using none*, at the moment I use a simple editor that gives context highlighting (keywords and such) and compiling/launching with keyborad shortcuts.. Textpad. * My Eclipse is broke and my few and half-hearted attemps to fix it failed. [ The complexity of the more advanced IDE's is one of their faults, AFAIAC ] Use a variety of IDE's and environments and end up using what you are most comfortable with and have available at that moment. The options are wide open. :-) SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology Thanks for the advice. I will put it to good use :) David > Use a variety of IDE's and environments > and end up using what you are most > comfortable with and have available at > that moment. > I have developed the on-line compiler > futher, it now delivers .zip files > containing the source, class files > and a few HTML docs etcetera. Why not include all of the extras in the JAR file so that it is still executable? > The files I am writing are largely > Windows oriented (the dev files are [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that are using an OS _other_ than > Windows? I use both Windows and Linux, but I rarely ask elementary questions. > What about browsers - IE? I use Mozilla v1.6 on both Linux and Windows (as should everybody), but will move to Firebird when it is complete. IE 6 is quite outdated by now. Greg >> I have developed the on-line compiler >> futher, it now delivers .zip files >> containing the source, class files >> and a few HTML docs etcetera. > > Why not include all of the extras in the JAR file so that it is still executable? Do you mean the .jar file the user produces? If OTOH, you are refering to the jars that my server was making, I withdrew those. I was apparently doing something wrong. When the JRE tried to open them it would report that they were corrupt. It's safer for the moment delivering the Zip files, which seem fine. SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology > Is there anybody here seeking answers > that are using an OS _other_ than > Windows? Using eComStation (OS/2) and Mozilla here. SignatureLuc Van Bogaert >> Is there anybody here seeking answers >> that are using an OS _other_ than >> Windows? > > Using eComStation (OS/2) and Mozilla here. OS/2.. that's an IBM Unix variant? I conclude I _will_ need to add some instructions for 'users of browsers that are not IE'. It seems like there are a few of you about. SignatureAndrew Thompson * http://www.PhySci.org/ Open-source software suite * http://www.PhySci.org/codes/ Web & IT Help * http://www.1point1C.org/ Science & Technology >>> Is there anybody here seeking answers >>> that are using an OS _other_ than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > OS/2.. that's an IBM Unix variant? Not really: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS/2 > I conclude I _will_ need to add some > instructions for 'users of browsers that > are not IE'. It seems like there are > a few of you about. On OS/2 ? I'd say even less than a few :) SignatureKind regards, Christophe Vanfleteren Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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