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Java Forum / First Aid / March 2008SSL Certificates?
Has anybody here actually bought a certificate for their Applet or JWS project? Where did you buy and approximately what do they cost? Will a SSL cert from godaddy work for a Java Applet or JWS program? Thanks,  SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:18:59 -0800, Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Has anybody here actually bought a certificate for their Applet or JWS >project? Where did you buy and approximately what do they cost? Will a >SSL cert from godaddy work for a Java Applet or JWS program? see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/certificate.html I list sources and approximate prices. The more recognisable the brand the higher the premium. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:18:59 -0800, Knute Johnson > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > The more recognisable the brand the higher the premium. I see you don't list CAcert <http://www.cacert.org> They strive to provide certificates to everyone, for no cost. SignatureSabine Dinis Blochberger Op3racional www.op3racional.eu On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:58:52 GMT, Sabine Dinis Blochberger <no.spam@here.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >I see you don't list CAcert <http://www.cacert.org> They seem to have a web of trust scheme similar to PGP. but they don't anywhere I can see answer the most obvious question "What kinds of certificate do they issue?" SSL? , Java code signing? SMIME? etc.? I have a query in. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:58:52 GMT, Sabine Dinis Blochberger > <no.spam@here.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have a query in. On the right, under "About CAcert" there are some resources. Maybe this will help <http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/TechnicalQuestions> SignatureSabine Dinis Blochberger Op3racional www.op3racional.eu > On Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:58:52 GMT, Sabine Dinis Blochberger > <no.spam@here.invalid> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > I have a query in. And also <http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/CodesigningCert> SignatureSabine Dinis Blochberger Op3racional www.op3racional.eu On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:18:59 -0800, Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : > Will a >SSL cert from godaddy work for a Java Applet or JWS program? No, you need a separate Java code-signing cert for that. See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/certificate.html for details. Chase relevant links at the bottom of the page. It seems to take a huge effort, but once you understand it is you wonder what all the fuss was about. I get my ant scripts to sign, and I can generate certs with bat files. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:18:59 -0800, Knute Johnson > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > The Java Glossary > http://mindprod.com Thanks I did look at your site and it was quite helpful. I think for now the price of certs is too dear for what I'm trying to deliver. SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:12:44 -0800, Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Thanks I did look at your site and it was quite helpful. I think for >now the price of certs is too dear for what I'm trying to deliver. The cost of a cert is the cost of researching to prove you are whom you claim to be. If we had a government id, a good technological unforgeable one that could be used over the net, then you would not even need to buy code signing certs. Your id, with a bit of software would be come the code signing cert. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:12:44 -0800, Knute Johnson > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > would be come the code signing cert. > -- I know it is a little different up there but down here we don't much like those things :-). Something in our genes. But you are correct. SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:37:32 -0800, Knute Johnson <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >I know it is a little different up there but down here we don't much >like those things :-). Something in our genes. But you are correct. Having an ID is one thing, being required to show it is what makes it big brother. I remember when Canadian politicians promised a SIN number would be used only for unemployment insurance. Now you can't open a bank account without one. Without a digital ID, there is too much potential for fraud on the Internet. In that I include: spam identity theft credit card fraud spying. You should be able to pay for something without identifying yourself, the equivalent of Internet cash. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:37:32 -0800, Knute Johnson > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > You should be able to pay for something without identifying yourself, > the equivalent of Internet cash. Yep! SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDem > On Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:12:44 -0800, Knute Johnson > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > The cost of a cert is the cost of researching to prove you are whom > you claim to be. Not really. The ones I looked at charge similar amouts year after yer, and you would expect verifying my identity would be high the first time and lower the following years. Also, they seem to charge again if I need certificates for Java, Brew, SSL etc, again where only one identity verification would be needed. SignatureRoger Lindsjö On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:22:13 +0100, Roger Lindsjö <news.nospam@tilialacus.net> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who said : >Not really. The ones I looked at charge similar amouts year after yer, >and you would expect verifying my identity would be high the first time >and lower the following years. Also, they seem to charge again if I need >certificates for Java, Brew, SSL etc, again where only one identity >verification would be needed. The price is determined by market forces. The vendor's cost is determined by the labour required to validate a cert. So we both can be right. -- Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > > On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:18:59 -0800, Knute Johnson > > <nospam@rabbitbrush.frazmtn.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Thanks I did look at your site and it was quite helpful. I think for > now the price of certs is too dear for what I'm trying to deliver. Have a look at CAcert <http://www.cacert.org> SignatureSabine Dinis Blochberger Op3racional www.op3racional.eu Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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