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Development Environments in Java?

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Logician - 09 Mar 2008 06:29 GMT
I have been writing C# .NET programs but I also want to write some
Java modules to develop interactive maps similar to www.muckety.com
and quintura.com. I have found the VC# environment from Microsoft very
good for debugging, faster coding, and greater visibility in the code.
The VC# software will automatically list methods, properties and
classses and there are faster ways to search.

I know Java can be coded just using WordPad but this will not show
classes and debugging is very hard. I assume these issues and the slow
download times have hindered Java development.

I am assuming people are still using applets, or are servlets now more
commonly used negating the need for slow downloads and plug-ins?

Is there a comprehensive development environment in Java as potent as
the VC# one from Microsoft and are plug-ins still needed in browsers
to run Java Applets or can browsers automatically have the plug-in
included?
Roedy Green - 09 Mar 2008 08:41 GMT
On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:29:06 -0800 (PST), Logician
<sales@logicians.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>I have been writing C# .NET programs but I also want to write some
>Java modules to develop interactive maps similar to www.muckety.com
>and quintura.com. I have found the VC# environment from Microsoft very
>good for debugging, faster coding, and greater visibility in the code.
>The VC# software will automatically list methods, properties and
>classses and there are faster ways to search.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/ide.html

main ones to try:
IntelliJ
Eclipse
NetBeans
--

Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
The Java Glossary
http://mindprod.com
Logician - 09 Mar 2008 09:10 GMT
On Mar 9, 7:41 am, Roedy Green <see_webs...@mindprod.com.invalid>
wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2008 21:29:06 -0800 (PST), Logician
> <sa...@logicians.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> Roedy Green Canadian Mind Products
> The Java Glossaryhttp://mindprod.com

I just d/l the JDeveloper software and then found there is almost
printed help (few books).

I will take a look at the others.
RedGrittyBrick - 09 Mar 2008 16:20 GMT
> I have been writing C# .NET programs but I also want to write some
> Java modules to develop interactive maps similar to www.muckety.com
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> classes and debugging is very hard. I assume these issues and the slow
> download times have hindered Java development.

I don't Java has been hindered. There are plenty of excellent IDEs for
Java that do all the things you list for "VC#".

> I am assuming people are still using applets,

I think applets are not as popular as they were some years ago.

> or are servlets now more
> commonly used negating the need for slow downloads and plug-ins?

I get the impression that people use JSP for some of the things that
applets might once have been used for. There is also an alternative
deployment technology called JWS.

> Is there a comprehensive development environment in Java as potent as
> the VC# one from Microsoft

Potency is somewhat subjective. There are sophisticated development
environments for Java with support for debugging, refactoring
code-completion, syntax highlighting, on-the-fly compilation, ...

> and are plug-ins still needed in browsers
> to run Java Applets

Yes.

> or can browsers automatically have the plug-in
> included?

Yes. Not all browser vendors choose to include such plug-ins as standard.

The same is true of ActiveX, Flash, .NET, Silverlight, etc.
Arne Vajhøj - 09 Mar 2008 16:42 GMT
> I have been writing C# .NET programs but I also want to write some
> Java modules to develop interactive maps similar to www.muckety.com
> and quintura.com. I have found the VC# environment from Microsoft very
> good for debugging, faster coding, and greater visibility in the code.
> The VC# software will automatically list methods, properties and
> classses and there are faster ways to search.

Java IDE's does the same thing.

> I know Java can be coded just using WordPad but this will not show
> classes and debugging is very hard. I assume these issues and the slow
> download times have hindered Java development.

No.

Practically all Java developers use an IDE.

> I am assuming people are still using applets, or are servlets now more
> commonly used negating the need for slow downloads and plug-ins?

Applets are no that popular any more.

I think Flash has somewhat filled that niche.

Servlets and JSP are server side and are a replacement for
ASP/PHP/ASP.NET not a replacement for applets.

> Is there a comprehensive development environment in Java as potent as
> the VC# one from Microsoft

Plenty.

Eclipse, NetBeans, Oracle JDeveloper, IntelliJ IDEA, Borlands Eclipse
cone, IBM's Eclipse clone.

>                            and are plug-ins still needed in browsers
> to run Java Applets or can browsers automatically have the plug-in
> included?

If you want X plugin working in a browser you need X installed on the
client PC.

Java or Flash or whatever.

Arne


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