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Java Forum / General / December 2007Is there an XML editor for Eclipse?
I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs that handle those files better are: - Microsoft Visual Studio (great job, specially the "View Data Grid") - NetBeans (nice, but don't try to open a file too big) I wonder about Eclipse support for XML files. None of the regular editors seems to be XML specific. The closest one is an HTML editor. -Ramon > I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs > that handle those files better are: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Ramon so much! you can use myeclispse which have the xml editor! > > I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs > > that handle those files better are: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > -Ramon > so much! you can use myeclispse which have the xml editor! Does that editor come as an Eclipse plugin? -Ramon Ramon F Herrera wrote:11 >I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs >that handle those files better are: Handle? Validation beats 'handling' anyday. > - Microsoft Visual Studio (great job, specially the "View Data Grid") Does it offer a button to 'validate' the document? (That is not any specific criticism of VS, if not. AFAIU - Netbeans/Eclipse only offer validation via. - Ant) > - NetBeans (nice, but don't try to open a file too big) I am not too impressed with Netbeans 'handling' of JNLP files (yes, it is XML). It will happily insert a DocType that refers to a non existant DTD. How dumb is that? Hopefuly Eclipse can raise the standard. <explanation>With XML becoming so inherent to some forms of data transfer, I would expect a good level of support for editing and *validating* XML from within an IDE - but have so far not seen it.</explanation>  SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.physci.org/ > Ramon F Herrera wrote:11 > >I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs > >that handle those files better are: > Does it offer a button to 'validate' the document? I bet you are comparing the 3 extra buttons added by NB6 when an XML file is opened. It's handy, but Eclipse's approach of having dozens of format-specific editors is superior. It scales up (or down). > Handle? Validation beats 'handling' anyday. > > > - Microsoft Visual Studio (great job, specially the "View Data Grid") I was pleasantly surprised when I bumped into this feature of Visual Studio. You open an XML file, right click on it and select "View Data Grid". A bunch of spreadsheets are generated in a separate view. -Ramon Ramon F Herrera, 18.12.2007 15:41: > I bet you are comparing the 3 extra buttons added by NB6 when an XML > file is opened. It's handy, but Eclipse's approach of having dozens of > format-specific editors is superior. It scales up (or down). NB has format specific editors as well. Just open a XSD file or the web.xml and you'll know what I mean. Thomas On Dec 18, 10:43 am, Thomas Kellerer <YQDHXVLMU...@spammotel.com> wrote: > Ramon F Herrera, 18.12.2007 15:41: > > > I bet you are comparing the 3 extra buttons added by NB6 when an XML > > file is opened. It's handy, but Eclipse's approach of having dozens of > > format-specific editors is superior. It scales up (or down). > NB has format specific editors as well. Can you get rid of the undesired ones? -RFH Ramon F Herrera, 18.12.2007 15:46: >> NB has format specific editors as well. > > Can you get rid of the undesired ones? What do you mean with that? Thomas On Dec 18, 10:54 am, Thomas Kellerer <YQDHXVLMU...@spammotel.com> wrote: > Ramon F Herrera, 18.12.2007 15:46: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thomas What I mean is that I prefer the Eclipse approach where everything is a plugin. You get the editors that you need and only the editors that you need. You can say "Open with..." and then select one of about 2 dozen editors. I just paid 400 clams for an Eclipse editor that has GUI building features. Some *.java files have GUI elements and some don't. After a while Eclipse knows which files are to be opened by the regular editor and which files by the "Designer". -Ramon > > Ramon F Herrera wrote:11 > > >I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I bet you are comparing the 3 extra buttons added by NB6 when an XML > file is opened. ... You'd be wrong. I don't run NB, and do not know of the 'three buttons' to which you refer. I was simply commenting on the JNLP files that are *produced* by NB, of which, I've validated and corrected many. -- Andrew T. PhySci.org > > > Ramon F Herrera wrote:11 > > > >I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > *produced* by NB, of which, I've validated and > corrected many. I stand corrected, Andrew. After my posting I discovered the XML capabilities of Eclipse (I was making comparisons from my computer, the one which didn't have the XML editor plugin) and they are pretty good. The bottom line of my evaluation is that we Java developers should envy only one thing that Microsoft provides to VS developers: the conversion from XML to grid. I hate to admit it, but it is cool and they beat our collective rear ends with that feature. Additionally, Excel can open XML files, while OpenOffice's scalc cannot. :-( -Ramon Ramon F Herrera schreef: > I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs > that handle those files better are: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I wonder about Eclipse support for XML files. None of the regular > editors seems to be XML specific. The closest one is an HTML editor. GIYF: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecxml/ I’d expect there to be better support though. Note that the article is ‘very’ old. There definitely is something like document validation in Eclipse 3.3. I’ve used XMLBuddy a while, it is nice. http://www.cafeaulait.org/slides/eclipseworld2005/xmlediting/XML_Editing_With_Ec lipse.html seems nice as well, but also dated. H. SignatureHendrik Maryns http://tcl.sfs.uni-tuebingen.de/~hendrik/ ================== http://aouw.org Ask smart questions, get good answers: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Have you actually tried to search the web for this information? Searching on Google for "xml editor Eclipse" yields lots of pertinent results. Moreover, the webtools project (http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/), which is an official Eclipse project, contains an XML editor that works pretty decently. It doesn't seem to have lots of advanced features, but it has content completion and validation, among other niceties. On Dec 18, 8:27 am, "jko...@gmail.com" <jko...@gmail.com> wrote: > Have you actually tried to search the web for this information? Of course I have. Didn't you read my post? :-) > Searching on Google for "xml editor Eclipse" yields lots of pertinent > results. You like Google search, I like Usenet search. Some people interact better with machines, I interact better with humans. Plus this type of question gets recorded in Google's disks and will get used by future searchers. (Hello, searchers! How is the future like? Can you give me the lotto numbers? Perhaps the horseys?) -Ramon > On Dec 18, 8:27 am, "jko...@gmail.com" <jko...@gmail.com> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Some people interact better with machines, I interact better with > humans. I'm not well versed in Usenet netiquette, but where I usually take part, it's customary to do some research on your own before asking others for their input. Otherwise it's called "do my homework." For what is worth, and to add some content to this post, even the official "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers" download comes with the XML editor I mentioned. You really didn't need to go out of your way to try it. > I'm not well versed in Usenet netiquette, but where I usually take > part, it's customary to do some research on your own before asking > others for their input. Otherwise it's called "do my homework." On the contrary, this isn't a Usenet discussion group, this is an all-volunteer help desk, and querents have no responsibility whatsoever except to demand answers. The rest of us must jump to their finger-snap, and do all that Googling for them. SignatureLew Ramon F Herrera <ramon@conexus.net> wrote in <e7e16ac5-dfdf-4d19-8732-d7e364b4d3ee@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: > On Dec 18, 8:27 am, "jko...@gmail.com" <jko...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Some people interact better with machines, I interact > better with humans. Just wondering: what are you doing in IT then? Have you considered a career in HR? <http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html> Signature...also, I submit that we all must honourably commit seppuku right now rather than serve the Dark Side by producing the HTML 5 spec. > Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in > <e7e16ac5-dfdf-4d19-8732-d7e364b4d...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Just wondering: what are you doing in IT then? Have you > considered a career in HR? I use machines to interact with people. I write software that is a pleasure to use. I am founder of newsgroups that get people together. I think that we need more guys like Jobs, not so many like Wozniak. -Ramon >> Ramon F Herrera <ra...@conexus.net> wrote in >> <e7e16ac5-dfdf-4d19-8732-d7e364b4d...@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > I use machines to interact with people. I see. > I write software that is a pleasure to use. By "interacting with people"? Correction: "I write software" is an inappropriate turn of phrase if that is the case. "I get others to write software for me" would be closer ro truth. > I am founder of newsgroups that get people together. > > I think that we need more guys like Jobs, not so many like Wozniak. You're doing well. That *did* sound Jobsey. And that was precisely my point, sort for, - perhaps you should concentrate on delivering flowery speeches in front of clueless audiences instead of developing software solutions, if that's where your talents lie? Oh. And since we're sharing opinions, I think we need more guys capable of trivial web searches. There doesn't seem to be any lack of guys with Visions to me, but who's going to bring those Visions to life if problem-solving is such a rare skill even on the most elementary level? "Hey Jeff! I have a Vision... any idea what to do with it?" - "Er... Damfino! Perhaps we should Interact?" - "A'ight, how's Jenny?" - "Thanks, she's doing great, how's your family?" - "Oh, fine, fine... Say, any ideas about that Vision of mine?" - "Nope." SignaturePresented in Brain Control where available. > "Hey Jeff! I have a Vision... any idea what to do with it?" - "Er... > Damfino! Perhaps we should Interact?" - "A'ight, how's Jenny?" - "Thanks, > she's doing great, how's your family?" - "Oh, fine, fine... Say, any ideas > about that Vision of mine?" - "Nope." Whoa! Ramon's posts tend to the educated and thoughtful. He's using this group to discuss concepts, not just as a help desk, and thus the human element is an intrinsic part of the process. Let's rather encourage his sort of behavior than excoriate it, and engage in spirited, thought-provoking discussion of what XML editors, in this case, there are for Eclipse, or should be. With perhaps the occasional flare of an Editor War to spice up the conversation? Naah, too easy. SignatureLew Lew <lew@lewscanon.com> wrote in <joidnf1vcqKkEfXanZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@comcast.com>: >> "Hey Jeff! I have a Vision... any idea what to do with >> it?" - "Er... Damfino! Perhaps we should Interact?" - [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > editors, in this case, there are for Eclipse, or should > be. Perhaps I'm overreacting, but I just recently answered a question from Ramon over on comp.text.xml; a question, that is, that he could answer himself by simply looking at the docs. I hoped a simple reference to the place where I got the answer from would make the point that he's wasting other's time. Instead, I saw him actually sort of bragging about his 'people's skills'. The message ID for those interested is: <b0762226-50e6-41f5-b239-ef487af5d566@l32g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Signature...also, I submit that we all must honourably commit seppuku right now rather than serve the Dark Side by producing the HTML 5 spec. > I have been playing with XML files for the first time lately. The IDEs > that handle those files better are: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I wonder about Eclipse support for XML files. None of the regular > editors seems to be XML specific. The closest one is an HTML editor. The Eclipse Web Tools Platform is a packaging of Eclipse that includes XML editors and the ability to validate XML. http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/ http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/tutorials/XMLValidation/XMLValidationT utorial.html Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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