> I always do most of my development inside an IDE (Eclipse or NetBeans)
> but lately I have been experimenting with the "Command Prompt" on
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> C:\> set CLASSPATH=C:\somedir\mylib.jar
> C:\> java -jar myprogram.jar
CLASSPATH will be ignored here.
> or
>
> C:\> java -classpath C:\somedir\mylib.jar -jar myprogram.jar
>
> Should this one work at all?
No, in the sense that the -classpath option will be ignored.
> C:\> java -DMain-Class=playground.Salutations -jar helloworld.jar
Main-Class isn't a command-line property.
> I have had very little success settings things up from the command
> line, but all my tests run well when I place things (Main-Class and
> Class-Path) in the Manifest.
Which is the documented behavior.
> How is the verbose mode used? Is there any way to obtain essential
> info such as the Main Class and the classpath?
Yes, look at the manifest of the JAR. I don't know how "verbose mode" affects
visibility of these parameters.
From <http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/java.html>
> -jar
> Execute a program encapsulated in a JAR file.
> The first argument is the name of a JAR file instead of a startup class name.
> In order for this option to work, the manifest of the JAR file must contain
> a line of the form Main-Class: classname.
Note the word "must" here.
Continuing:
> When you use this option, the JAR file is the source of all user classes,
> and other user class path settings are ignored.

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Ramon F Herrera - 09 Dec 2007 23:02 GMT
> > I always do most of my development inside an IDE (Eclipse or NetBeans)
> > but lately I have been experimenting with the "Command Prompt" on
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>
> CLASSPATH will be ignored here.
My Linux server is running and ancient, non-Sun version of Java, hence
my follow up question:
Will the above work under Un*x?
-Ramon
ps: this is what Wikipedia says:
"Setting the path through an environment variable.
The Environment variable named CLASSPATH may be alternatively used to
set the Classpath. For the above example, we could also use on
Windows :
set CLASSPATH=D:\myprogram
java org.mypackage.HelloWorld"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classpath
Ramon F Herrera - 09 Dec 2007 23:09 GMT
> > > I always do most of my development inside an IDE (Eclipse or NetBeans)
> > > but lately I have been experimenting with the "Command Prompt" on
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>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classpath
Now that I have read the 'man' page (RTFMP!) I guess my question is
answered.
I guess the designers are so eager to improve the loading time that
they don't bother doing much error checking. For instance, the
Manifest can be syntactically bad, and the user will not be told...
-Ramon
Arne Vajhøj - 09 Dec 2007 23:20 GMT
> ps: this is what Wikipedia says:
>
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>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classpath
The critical point is that the use of -jar changes
some things.
Including CLASSPATH and -classpath.
And that is to my best of knowledge exactly the
same on Linux/Unix and Windows.
Arne
Knute Johnson - 10 Dec 2007 02:39 GMT
> From
<http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/java.html>
>> -jar
>> Execute a program encapsulated in a JAR file. The first argument is
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>
> Note the word "must" here.
A jar file created with the e option can use that classname as the entry
point and no explicit manifest is required. On the other hand, a jar
file can contain multiple classes and one can execute a specific class
by specifying the jar file as the classpath and the name of the class
one wishes to execute.
java -cp TheJar.jar TheClass

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Ramon F Herrera wrote on 09.12.2007 23:44:
> I always do most of my development inside an IDE (Eclipse or NetBeans)
> but lately I have been experimenting with the "Command Prompt" on
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>
> Should this one work at all?
No, it should not.
Read the manual for the java command.
Quote from <http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/tools/windows/java.html>:
"When you use this option, the JAR file is the source of all user classes, and
other user class path settings are ignored."
Thomas
On Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:44:12 -0800 (PST), Ramon F Herrera
<ramon@conexus.net> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :
>C:\> java -classpath C:\somedir\mylib.jar -jar myprogram.jar
I think most of your questions will be answered at
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http://mindprod.com/jgloss/classpath.html
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/jar.html

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