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Java Forum / General / December 2007The text editor "discussions"
These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java newsgroup. Arguing with Paul/Twisted/Nebulous/Twerpinator/Bbound/whatever name he decides to use today is obviously a pointless venture, as past threads in this newsgroup (and my own personal experience, unfortunately) has shown. Regardless, if some of you insist on carrying on this months-old discussion, can you PLEASE take it to email or a different group where flame wars about Emacs would be more on-topic? > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > discussion, can you PLEASE take it to email or a different group where > flame wars about Emacs would be more on-topic? alt.flame.emacs.psychotic, perhaps? > alt.flame.emacs.psychotic, perhaps? I like it. :) >> alt.flame.emacs.psychotic, perhaps? > > I like it. :) I have seen none of this flame wars in a while. Ahh, the peace and quiet of a good killfile.  SignatureLew > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Nov 30, 12:39 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Christ, you're infecting this thread too? Go away. You're not wanted here (not that you're wanted anywhere else.) > Christ, you're infecting this thread too? WTF Everyone who's responded to this most recent discussion has been a participant in the original. How about this thread infecting the newsgroup? Why don't you all just keep it there? On Dec 3, 12:32 am, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 3, 12:32 am, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. How would you know? On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at > all true. If they are, you'd be the last to know. On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Sure, like anyone would take your word for it. On Dec 11, 7:51 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. >These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java >newsgroup. Yeah I agree, ..but. As I was about to (try to*) ascertain why that thread was dragging on (and on, and on..) and make some suggestions, it occured to me that a particularly quirky and noisome individual had not had time to make snide remarks to me about my approach toward people, and I decided to 'leave it'. Mind you. Using a WITUN, I do not even have to suffer the bandwidth of the continuing thread (all I get is the idiot thread continually jumping to the 'top of the list') - I pity the users of desktop news clients that are unable to 'plonk' it, and end up downloading every post. * It is becoming impractical to *access* that thread via my WITUN. SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.physci.org/ >> These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java >> newsgroup. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > * It is becoming impractical to *access* that thread via my > WITUN. Two interesting(?) observations: 1. That Thread finally prompted me to go find a real newsreader and give up on Google Groups. 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's killfiled that thread with no input from me. -o > 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's > killfiled that thread with no input from me. That is pretty interesting. What newsreader are you using? >> 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's >> killfiled that thread with no input from me. That is both clever and worrying. I would prefer to expend a little effort plonking threads (perhaps according to criteria, such as who started the thread) than to have some unknown other persons/processes deciding that for me. >That is pretty interesting. What newsreader are you using? I suspect it is the "User-Agent:" shown here.. <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/msg/617df325a46f1e4b?dm ode=source SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.physci.org/ >>> 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's >>> killfiled that thread with no input from me. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > such as who started the thread) than to have some unknown > other persons/processes deciding that for me. It turns out it's merely buggy; turning off threaded view brought back the complete thread. A bug has been filed. It *does* seem to have figured out that the ongoing crapflood in rec.games.roguelikes.nethack is not worthy of my attention, though; neither threaded nor non-threaded view shows posts from it until I turn "hide read posts" off. >> That is pretty interesting. What newsreader are you using? > > I suspect it is the "User-Agent:" shown here.. > <http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.java.programmer/msg/617df325a46f1e4b?dm ode=source Indeed it is. It's... adequate. The killfile sucks for anything other than plonk-by-author or plonk-by-crossposts, and I haven't figured out if, never mind how, it can show the full headers on articles. On the other hand, it gets line wrapping and quoting Right and the built-in editor doesn't make me reach for TextMate or emacs immediately, and the support for media groups is great. Anyone have a better suggestion for an OS X newsreader? slrn and trn suggestions met with gales of laughter. :) -o > Anyone have a better suggestion for an OS X newsreader? slrn and trn > suggestions met with gales of laughter. :) How about Thunderbird? > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. >>>> 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's >>>> killfiled that thread with no input from me. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > -o Hmm, anybody know hot to add a killfile to Thunderbird? SignatureDaniel Pitts' Tech Blog: <http://virtualinfinity.net/wordpress/> Daniel Pitts skrev: >>>>> 2. The newsreader I picked is evidently smarter than I am, as it's >>>>> killfiled that thread with no input from me. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> > Hmm, anybody know hot to add a killfile to Thunderbird? You can set up Filter rules under Tools. You can also create filter rules via right-clicking the From address. Daniel Pitts skrev: >> Hmm, anybody know hot to add a killfile to Thunderbird? > You can set up Filter rules under Tools. > You can also create filter rules via right-clicking the From address. Left-click on main newsgroup server entry in the "Folders" pane. The right pane shows a bunch of commands, including "Manage message filters". This recapitulates the menu item "_T_ools / Message _F_ilters...". In the Message Filters dialog, make sure the "_F_ilters for:" dropdown is set either to your whole newsgroup account ("choose this news server") or to a particular newsgroup you want to filter. Click on the "_N_ew" button, or select an existing filter and click on the "_E_dit" button. A typical killfile rule would "Match any _o_f the following" and a have series of criteria such as "From" "contains" "MI5Victim@mi5.gov.uk". Add another criterion with the plus (+) button to the right of the existing criterion: (+) "From" "contains" "AShopper.net". "_P_erform these actions" should be "Mark As Read" plus (+) "Delete Message". Click "OK". Make sure the filter's "Enabled" box is checked. Click the little "X" close box in the upper right of the window. (T-Bird forgot to provide a "Finished" button.) SignatureLew > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. > > Arguing with Paul/Twisted/Nebulous/Twerpinator/Bbound/whatever name he > decides to use today is obviously a pointless venture, as past threads > in this newsgroup (and my own personal experience, unfortunately) has shown. Quite. Pointless, off-topic, not something one should want on one's Permanent Record -- and yet apparently oh so difficult to resist. > Regardless, if some of you insist on carrying on this months-old > discussion, can you PLEASE take it to email or a different group where > flame wars about Emacs would be more on-topic? Well, I strongly suspect that for at least two of the participants in this ridiculous wrangle, taking the discussion to e-mail would rather defeat the purpose, which seems to involve not letting the other party have the last word. (Yeah, I'm one of those "at least two".) Much the same thing applies to moving to another group, I think. Maybe you'll shame everyone but Twisted into giving up, though. Eventually. I apologize to the group for continuing the wrangle. I don't promise to cease and desist immediately, but maybe I can try to avoid fanning the flames as much. SignatureB. L. Massingill ObDisclaimer: I don't speak for my employers; they return the favor. On Dec 1, 7:48 pm, blm...@myrealbox.com <blm...@myrealbox.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Is this your new strategy for things you can't give an intelligent response to? > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. >> None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at >> all true. > Is this your new strategy for things you can't give an intelligent > response to? No, not at all new... [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. How would you know? On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at > all true. If they are, you'd be the last to know. >> On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If they are, you'd be the last to know. I guess I'm going to have to tell Thunderbird to ignore this thread, too. How about we drop all this squabbling? SignatureLew On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Sure, like anyone would take your word for it. On Dec 11, 7:51 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. >> These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java >> newsgroup. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Quite. Pointless (...) I'm not so sure about pointless. It does appear to have reduced the Twisted-density in the remainder of the newsgroup and surely that is /something/. I would hate to have to let him loose on the general population again . . . :-) Cheers, Bent D SignatureBent Dalager - bcd@pvv.org - http://www.pvv.org/~bcd powered by emacs [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. How would you know? On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 5, 10:38 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > at > all true. If they are, you'd be the last to know. On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. > On Dec 9, 2:01 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > [implied insult deleted] > > None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at > all true. Sure, like anyone would take your word for it. On Dec 11, 4:51 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: > <twerpina...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sure, like anyone would take your word for it. Mike, buddy. Knock it off. It's bad enough that Twisted posts the same zero-content wastes of bandwidth repeatedly. You're smarter than that. -o > On Dec 11, 4:51 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > same zero-content wastes of bandwidth repeatedly. You're smarter than > that. None of the positive things you said or implied about Mike are at all true. /W (Oh jeez, I feel the urge again ...) >> Mike, buddy. Knock it off. It's bad enough that Twisted posts the >> same zero-content wastes of bandwidth repeatedly. You're smarter than >> that. > None of the positive things you said or implied about Mike are at all true. Oh, long time no see, you snotty-faced heap of parrots droppings! ;-D [two implied insults deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. On Dec 11, 7:51 pm, "Mike Schilling" <mscottschill...@hotmail.com> wrote: [implied insult deleted] None of the nasty things that you have said or implied about me are at all true. [snip] Oh, no. Not only is JA back, but he's starting up whole new flame threads. Apparently one just isn't enough for some people. > Arguing with Paul/Twisted/Nebulous/Twerpinator/Bbound/whatever name he > decides to use today I've never decided to use the name Paul. Other people have, for some reason inexplicable to me, decided to use it to label me from time to time. > These "discussions" are really getting irritating - offtopic in a Java > newsgroup. > Emacs would be more on-topic? they naturally belong in comp.lang.software.tools When you have topic drift, there is no mechanism to move the thread. It is just one of the disadvantages of not having a moderator. There are more important things to get your tail in a knot over. 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