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Java Forum / General / October 2007So, how many of you just got betrayed by Apple
I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on here that want to share your thoughts on the subject? >I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's >java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on >here that want to share your thoughts on the subject? I'm not sure why anyone would expect any different when Apple's "300 points" list for Leopard made no mention of Java6 at all. Of course, that doesn't mean it doesn't suck but at least it does so predictably :-/ Cheers, Bent D  SignatureBent Dalager - bcd@pvv.org - http://www.pvv.org/~bcd powered by emacs >> I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's >> java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Cheers, > Bent D Do any of Sun's Linux versions run on Leopard? SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ >I'm not sure why anyone would expect any different when Apple's "300 >points" list for Leopard made no mention of Java6 at all. Are Apple's string of OS's incompatible with each other? Can't you run an OSX app on Leopard? I presume Leopard is the beta name. Does it have a release name? SignatureRoedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com >> I'm not sure why anyone would expect any different when Apple's "300 >> points" list for Leopard made no mention of Java6 at all. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I presume Leopard is the beta name. Does it have a release name? Leopard is the code name for 10.5 which has just been generally released (not beta). Arne >Leopard is the code name for 10.5 which has just been generally >released (not beta). Here is what I have found out about it. Leopard is version 10.5 of Apple's OS X operating system for the MacIntosh. Most changes are to the look of the desktop. You have stacks icons that pop open displaying their contents in a fan (or optionally the traditional grid). The active window has a drop shadow. Cover-Flow while browsing folders lets you see a preview of the document. It can search all machines on a local LAN. It has Magellan-like Quick-Look to let you rapidly view files without loading the full application. Time Machine is an incremental backup of your entire machine that backs up any changes every hour to on external hard disk. It lets you support multiple desktops that Apple calls spaces. You can move apps between spaces in the bird's eye view. Unfortunately, it does not support Java 1.6. SignatureRoedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's > java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on > here that want to share your thoughts on the subject? Apple could have been more diligent and proactive, but the final responsibility for producing Java rests on Sun Microsystems. Sun should be very interested on Java running on the Mac; after all the only evidence of the theoretical "write once, run anywhere" is that Java runs on two O/S: Windows and Unix (then again, in some of its variations only). -Ramon Ramon F Herrera schrieb: >> I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's >> java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > -Ramon Doesn`t Apple produce the jvm for the MAC by itself as they want to build in their own features/hacks ? > Ramon F Herrera schrieb: >> Sun should be very interested on Java running on the Mac; after all >> the only evidence of the theoretical "write once, run anywhere" is >> that Java runs on two O/S: Windows and Unix (then again, in some of >> its variations only). > Doesn`t Apple produce the jvm for the MAC by itself as they want to > build in their own features/hacks ? True. But that is actually the standard. SUN provides for Windows and Linux. But the rest is by OS vendor: SUN - Solaris Apple - MacOS X IBM - z/OS IBM - AIX IBM - whatever they call OS/400 this week HP - OpenVMS HP - HP-UX etc. Arne On Oct 29, 10:17 pm, Arne Vajh?j <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote: > > Ramon F Herrera schrieb: > >> Sun should be very interested on Java running on the Mac; after all [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Arne Really? I am surprised. Has this self-development been going on forever or since Java was open sourced recently? -Ramon > On Oct 29, 10:17 pm, Arne Vajh?j <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > -Ramon AFAIK, Sun has always provided Windows, Solaris. Blackdown.org did the only linux for a while, but then sun developed their own linux vm. That was it for Sun, they never did anything else for Apple, IBM, or HP machines. Also, Oracle and BEA have their VMs too. > AFAIK, Sun has always provided Windows, Solaris. Blackdown.org did > the only linux for a while, but then sun developed their own linux > vm. That was it for Sun, they never did anything else for Apple, IBM, > or HP machines. Also, Oracle and BEA have their VMs too. Most of the 3rd-party implementations, including IBM's and Apple's, use code licensed from Sun. The most recent stable release from Apple is based on Sun's JDK 1.5.0_07. Most of what they have added is in integrating the GUI stuff so that it looks nice on OS X. Dan. SignatureDaniel Dyer http://www.uncommons.org > Really? I am surprised. Has this self-development been going on > forever or since Java was open sourced recently? Forever. That's how Sun makes money from Java. Vendors license various bits and pieces of Java technology from Sun and implement Java on their platform. Depending on what you buy from Sun you get source code, tools, trademark rights, etc. Want to do your own SE implementation? Go to http://java.sun.com/javase/licensees.jsp and pay Sun. The licensing business and the use of the Java trademark for incompatible derivatives were Sun's biggest worries when open-sourcing Java. Sun still restricts the use of the trademark. This is one of the reasons the Red Had people call their experimental OpenJDK-based project IcedTea. On Oct 30, 3:17 am, Arne Vajh?j <a...@vajhoej.dk> wrote: > SUN provides for Windows and Linux. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Arne As a side questions, who provides JVM for JavaME? -- R?gis >> SUN provides for Windows and Linux. >> But the rest is by OS vendor: >> SUN - Solaris >> Apple - MacOS X >> etc. > As a side questions, who provides JVM for JavaME? Probably the vendor of that respective JavaME-supporting platform, or whoever is "hired" by that vendor for that job ... Just my guess. > I know there are probably a lot of you who just found out that apple's > java is still stuck on 5 after the Leopard release. Any of you on > here that want to share your thoughts on the subject? I don't use a Mac, but considering that there's a new thread about bugs and crashes related to the file dialog in 1.6, your "betrayal" is starting to look like a smart move. Maybe Apple knew something the rest of us didn't.... Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. 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