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Ownerman...Aust.. - 24 Oct 2007 17:37 GMT
I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
group: "Computer programming news" and tell(if anyone knows) if it is
a good one or not.
Roedy Green - 24 Oct 2007 18:26 GMT
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:37:08 -0700, "Ownerman...Aust.."
<AustBlossey@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
>group: "Computer programming news" and tell(if anyone knows) if it is
>a good one or not.

That's a bit like saying, "I've met a girl named Maria.  Would she
make a good wife?".  That depends a lot on you.

to pick a good Java book:

1. thump through it. It should not be too easy, or you won't learn
anything.

2. It should not be so hard you can't make sense of it. It won't make
any more sense when you get it home.

3. It should have some parts over your head, hopefully that won't be
later.

4. It should have lots of example code, preferably complete examples
you can actually run.  Code is ever so much better at explaining what
to do than paragraphs of fluffy English.

5. The book should not just be a rehash of documentation you can get
free on the net.  It should be teaching how to code, not just listing
methods.

I tend to like O'Reilly books. They are small, and go into some one
topic in depth.

I enjoy Peter Van der Linden's book, partly because I helped edit it.
He is fun and helps break the tedium with little quirky bits.  He is
also good about choosing simple examples to illustrate rather than
going all grandiose with abstract language.

If you are going to do web programming get Marty Hall's books,
especially if you want to write code that simulates or automates
things a browser does.

See http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gettingstarted.html
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Eric Sosman - 25 Oct 2007 13:41 GMT
> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:37:08 -0700, "Ownerman...Aust.."
> <AustBlossey@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> That's a bit like saying, "I've met a girl named Maria.  Would she
> make a good wife?".  That depends a lot on you.

    I've met a girl named Java, but when we started to get
intimate it turned out she was a dominatrix.  I got extended,
overridden, and overloaded.

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Christian - 25 Oct 2007 14:21 GMT
Eric Sosman schrieb:
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:37:08 -0700, "Ownerman...Aust.."
>> <AustBlossey@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> intimate it turned out she was a dominatrix.  I got extended,
> overridden, and overloaded.

Even in such an abstract relationship you should try to catch finally
that your interfaces  don`t match. Except if you like the way she
changes your structure and gets you very hierarchical then continue else
break and return as soon as possible.
Wildemar Wildenburger - 25 Oct 2007 16:20 GMT
> Even in such an abstract relationship you should try to catch finally
> that your interfaces  don`t match. Except if you like the way she
> changes your structure and gets you very hierarchical then continue else
> break and return as soon as possible.

*applause*

/W
Lew - 25 Oct 2007 22:52 GMT
>> Even in such an abstract relationship you should try to catch finally
>> that your interfaces  don`t match. Except if you like the way she
>> changes your structure and gets you very hierarchical then continue else
>> break and return as soon as possible.

If you don't use a good security manager you may find yourself spawning a
child process that you didn't intend.

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Daniel Pitts - 25 Oct 2007 17:34 GMT
>> On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:37:08 -0700, "Ownerman...Aust.."
>> <AustBlossey@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> intimate it turned out she was a dominatrix.  I got extended,
> overridden, and overloaded.

I met her older sister, Anna Tation, she just enumerated my generics.

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Andrew Thompson - 25 Oct 2007 00:12 GMT
>I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
>group: "Computer programming news" ...

Your first post had me wonderring whether you were
a moron.  But now I realise you are just the latest in a
long line of spamming multi-posters.  

(If I have to choose -) I prefer morons.  P*ss off.

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Daniel Pitts - 25 Oct 2007 03:06 GMT
> I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
> group: "Computer programming news" and tell(if anyone knows) if it is
> a good one or not.

Why would I post on your group? I don't see it in the standard usenet
groups.  Is it a Yahoo group? Is it some other site?  Why should I care?
 I get plenty of Computer programming news as it is.

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Andrew Thompson - 25 Oct 2007 05:42 GMT
>> I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
>> group: "Computer programming news" and tell(if anyone knows) if it is
>> a good one or not.
>
>Why would I post on your group? I don't see it in the standard usenet
>groups.  Is it a Yahoo group? Is it some other site?  ..

Read more here, where I had time for a 'polite response'
<http://www.javakb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/java-setup/11188/For-dummies#7a1ff344526c3uwe

>..Why should I care?
...
A salient question.

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Roedy Green - 25 Oct 2007 12:38 GMT
On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:37:08 -0700, "Ownerman...Aust.."
<AustBlossey@gmail.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
said :

>I bought a Java book titled "Java programming for dummies. post on my
>group: "Computer programming news" and tell(if anyone knows) if it is
>a good one or not.

see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gettingstarted.html
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