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hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have just finished my graduation..i am eager to know about java programming..how do i start all of it ..help me... varsha.teddy@gmail.com >hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have >just finished my graduation..i am eager to know about java >programming..how do i start all of it ..help me... >varsha.teddy@gmail.com Try http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html rossum varsha wrote: >> hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have >> just finished my graduation..i am eager to know about java >> programming..how do i start all of it ..help me... >> varsha.teddy@gmail.com > Try http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/index.html More advice: Java is a language of precision, like all computer technology. Case matters. It is good practice to use correct case, especially on proper nouns, in English. It helps the mental rigor needed to program correctly, and it helps sell your skills to prospective employers and clients. "This" is not a "site". "This" is a Usenet forum. The word "I" is spelled in upper case. The word "Java" is capitalized. Sentences end in a single period followed by two spaces before the next sentence. Questions end in a question mark ('?'). Usenet posts are answered on Usenet. It's a public forum, so don't anticipate that people will email you privately for conversations here. Review the regularly (every few days) posted message in this forum, "comp.lang.java.{help,programmer} - what they're for (mini-FAQ 2006-03-31)". Within it and in the links to which it points is sound advice how to make good use of these forums.  SignatureLew Lew said something like: > varsha wrote: >>> hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > "This" is not a "site". "This" is a Usenet forum. I would be a little more forgiving of this. There are sites out there that provide a forum façade to usenet, and people interface through that site's HTML, and not through their newsreaders NNTP. It would be easy for a newcomer to get that confused. ...[rip]... SignatureWith knowledge comes sorrow, with intelligence, despair. On Oct 23, 9:36 am, "Thomas G. Marshall" <tgm2tothe10thpo...@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote: > Lew said something like: ... > > "This" is not a "site". "This" is a Usenet forum. > > I would be a little more forgiving of this. ... How does 'forgiveness' enter into it? Lew was simply providing information. Did you perhaps mean 'provide more detail'? Andrew T. > On Oct 23, 9:36 am, "Thomas G. Marshall" > <tgm2tothe10thpo...@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > providing information. Did you perhaps mean 'provide > more detail'? In fact, casting what I said in terms of "forgiving" diminishes the message. Was the information not valid? Was it not objective? Was it not useful? Isn't valid, objective, useful information the whole point of this forum? How in the world can there be an objection to that? While TGM soaks in the warm piddle of feel-good misinformation, I advise the OP to pay attention to the valid, objective, useful information. SignatureLew Lew said something like: >> On Oct 23, 9:36 am, "Thomas G. Marshall" >> <tgm2tothe10thpo...@replacetextwithnumber.hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > advise the OP to pay attention to the valid, objective, useful > information. Whoa....what I said about "forgiveness" is a figure of speech...and certainly not meant as an admonishment toward you. Look at it this way: You sentences "This" is not a "site". "This" is a Usenet forum. was correcting someone. A correction, is usually aimed toward a mistake. Being forgiving of a mistake is a converstational way of saying that I wouldn't even bother correcting it for the reasons I gave. There was nothing wrong in you correcting him, nothing at all. And it was useful information. Nor was there anything wrong with my reply. However, your "soaks in the warm piddle" bullshit is pointedly rude. Now *that* is an admonishment of your behavior here. > However, your "soaks in the warm piddle" bullshit is pointedly rude. Now > *that* is an admonishment of your behavior here. I apologize. I really thought you were advocating diminishing the information provided. Since I was mistaken in that regard, my comment was over the top. SignatureLew Lew said something like: >> However, your "soaks in the warm piddle" bullshit is pointedly rude. Now >> *that* is an admonishment of your behavior here. > > I apologize. I really thought you were advocating diminishing the > information provided. Since I was mistaken in that regard, my comment was > over the top. Accepted, of course, thank you. However Andrew also misread my tone and intention, so I probably wasn't as clear as I intended either. I'll look at it again, keep it from happening. I wonder though..... It's been a while since I've frequented the computer science newsgroups. Perhaps I've lost the vocal precision needed here? Interesting..... I *do* have to use a tone here that I otherwise wouldn't use. SignatureI've seen this a few times--Don't make this mistake: Dwight: "This thing is wildly available." Smedly: "Did you mean wildly, or /widely/ ?" Dwight: "Both!", said while nodding emphatically. Dwight was exposed to have made a grammatical error and tries to cover it up by thinking fast. This is so painfully obvious that he only succeeds in looking worse. > It's been a while since I've frequented the computer science newsgroups. > Perhaps I've lost the vocal precision needed here? Interesting..... I *do* > have to use a tone here that I otherwise wouldn't use. What you apparently missed is that there's been a lot of thin-skinned reaction in this group to objective posts that failed to sufficiently pander to some sensitivities. People have had a tendency to be, IMHO, overly prickly and it has started to intrude on the conveyance of assistance. That trend and the discussions about it set the tone. Had there not been this controversy we might have not interpreted your comment about being "forgiving" quite so literally. SignatureLew >hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have >just finished my graduation..i am eager to know about java >programming..how do i start all of it ..help me... >varsha.teddy@gmail.com see http://mindprod.com/jgloss/gettingstarted.html The best way to learn is to set yourself a project that you care about, that you actually want to use yourself. Then you learn what you need to bit by bit to implement your project. That gives you focus and extra motivation. see http://mindprod.com/project/projects.html to give you some ideas for projects. SignatureRoedy Green Canadian Mind Products The Java Glossary http://mindprod.com > hi to all ..thanks to this site ..it is doing a great job..i have > just finished my graduation..i am eager to know about java > programming..how do i start all of it ..help me... > varsha.teddy@gmail.com I would suggest that you get to grips with the Big O theory. Writing good data structures is the key to writing quick programs. Google: Object Orientated, Interfaces, Inheritance Regards j1mb0jay Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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