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Java Editor with Auto-complete.

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riva - 12 Oct 2007 16:26 GMT
I use GNU/Linux. I had programmed in Java writing source code in Vim.
But the huge number of classes and methods is really daunting, and
auto-complete feature really comes in handy. I learned about the IDE's
like Netbeans and Eclipse, but they are too much ``feature-rich'' for
my use. Moreover, they ask me to write in the code they want, not the
way I want it. I found that for Windows there is an editor which is
JBuilder, which auto-indents, auto-completes and highlights too. Is
there any such editor available for GNU/Linux?
Manish Pandit - 12 Oct 2007 17:20 GMT
> Moreover, they ask me to write in the code they want, not the
> way I want it.

Can you elaborate this statement ?

-cheers,
Manish
Mark Space - 12 Oct 2007 19:21 GMT
> way I want it. I found that for Windows there is an editor which is
> JBuilder, which auto-indents, auto-completes and highlights too. Is
> there any such editor available for GNU/Linux?

NetBeans doesn't do this?  NetBeans doesn't run on Lunux?

http://www.netbeans.info/downloads/all.php?b_id=3095

Linux right at the top.
Senatov - 13 Oct 2007 08:59 GMT
> NetBeans doesn't do this?  NetBeans doesn't run on Lunux?
yes, they does.
But i think, he asking  about something not so `feature-rich''  as
this two GUI. Probably where is some plug-ins for VI or JEdit for that?

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riva - 13 Oct 2007 10:46 GMT
> yes, they does.
> But i think, he asking  about something not so `feature-rich''  as
> this two GUI. Probably where is some plug-ins for VI or JEdit for that?

Thanks for understanding. When I code in Netbeans then I don't have
control how my sources are stored, how the data files are handled. But
the feature like auto-suggestion for method names etc. is really
helpful. Is there any editor that does this.
Thomas Kellerer - 13 Oct 2007 11:00 GMT
riva wrote on 13.10.2007 11:46:
> Thanks for understanding. When I code in Netbeans then I don't have
> control how my sources are stored, how the data files are handled.

This is simply not true.

You have full control where an how the sources are stored. Not sure what you
mean with "how data files are handled", but I never had any problems "handling
datafiles" in NetBeans in the last 5 years....

You might need to read the tutorials on the NetBeans site.

Thomas
Lew - 13 Oct 2007 18:07 GMT
> Thanks for understanding. When I code in Netbeans then I don't have
> control how my sources are stored, how the data files are handled. But

This I don't understand.  What control are you seeking that NetBeans lacks?

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David Segall - 13 Oct 2007 14:32 GMT
>I use GNU/Linux. I had programmed in Java writing source code in Vim.
>But the huge number of classes and methods is really daunting, and
>auto-complete feature really comes in handy. I learned about the IDE's
>like Netbeans and Eclipse, but they are too much ``feature-rich'' for
>my use. Moreover, they ask me to write in the code they want, not the
>way I want it.
Both these IDEs allow you to write any code you feel like. If you
don't want to use their GUI designers or code generating wizards you
are not obliged to.
>I found that for Windows there is an editor which is
>JBuilder, which auto-indents, auto-completes and highlights too. Is
>there any such editor available for GNU/Linux?

JBuilder :) <http://cc.codegear.com/Free.aspx?id=24727>. I believe the
expensive versions are also available for Linux. If you don't want a
full featured Java IDE like JBuilder, Eclipse or NetBeans Roedy Green
has many alternatives at <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/ide.html>
Daniel Pitts - 13 Oct 2007 17:57 GMT
> I use GNU/Linux. I had programmed in Java writing source code in Vim.
> But the huge number of classes and methods is really daunting, and
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> JBuilder, which auto-indents, auto-completes and highlights too. Is
> there any such editor available for GNU/Linux?

Personally, I prefer IntelliJ IDEA, but its a commercial product and
probably two feature rich (whatever that means) for you.  It supports
some very nice things, like refactoring, J2EE support, auto-completion,
auto-creation (use something that doesn't exist yet, and it'll help you
create it if you want), and much more.

It does cost a bundle though. If you can get your company to pay for it,
its worth it. If not, then Eclipse and NetBeans are descent enough.  If
they "force" you do write your code in a particular way, then its
probably the right way to do it.  Otherwise I couldn't see them forcing it.

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Lew - 13 Oct 2007 18:16 GMT
> If they "force" you do write your code in a particular way, then its
> probably the right way to do it.  Otherwise I couldn't see them forcing it.

Eclipse, NetBeans, and I'm betting all the other IDEs mentioned, sport
customizable warning and error levels, and style guidelines.  Eclipse has
exceptionally fine-grained control over such things.  I'm not sure about the
others, but NetBeans lets you edit its source templates ad lib.  For example,
my application and servlet templates include the logging aspect.  Thus, when I
create a new source file, that aspect is already limned.

All the IDEs default to one set of guidelines or another, conforming to
generally-accepted conventions and best practices.

riva said:
> I learned about the IDE's like Netbeans and Eclipse,
> but they are too much ``feature-rich'' for my use.

Complaining that an IDE, particularly an open-source one, gives you "too much"
power is like a lottery winner complaining that the jackpot was too big.  Get
over it.

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