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Java Forum / General / October 2007Free online Java test examination on saryos.com
Tip: I have recently visited a website which makes it possible for every one te test his / her Java programming skills. saryos.com offers three levels (Beginners level, Medior, Advanced) Java test examinations. After each test examination you can compare your answers with the correct answers. I think that it is very handy. On Oct 8, 11:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > Tip: > I have recently visited a website ... How do I hate thee? Let me count the ways.. - You are a lying* schill** - You are a spammer*** - You are a multi-poster**** ..I'm sick of counting. Now p*ss off and stop wasting our bandwidth. ..How do I say that in Dutch? * You say you 'visited' this site you are spamming***, but you actually uploaded it. That makes you a schill** Further, you are yet another Google groups spammer***, yet try to obscure your origins by changing your public ident. to an address coming out of yahoo. ** You are a schill for pretending that you are simply a 'disinterested bystander' when you actually look to gain from people visiting your site. Though your efforts are so transparent I suspect that it might be better to simply think of you as a pillock. *** You are a spammer for mentioning your damn fool site, unsolicited, on this usenet newsgroup. **** You have already posted this message to a number of other web forums***** about the internet, & now you have found usenet. How unfortunate. ***** e.g. http://www.javaworld.com/javaforums/showflat.php?Cat=2&Number=54729&Main=54729> http://www.marktnet.nl/Gratis-online-Java-proefexamen-doen-1034934.htm> Andrew T. > On Oct 8, 11:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > - You are a multi-poster**** > ..I'm sick of counting. Your usual knee jerk reaction? I don't see any actual evidence to support your accusations, plausible though they seem. Nothing in the headers of the post indicate either a) any connection between the poster and the domain saryos.com or b) that it was posted anywhere else (it's definitely not a cross-post; of course you accuse him of multiposting which is not easy to detect except by chance, or to disprove either for that matter). > On Oct 8, 11:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Andrew T. This message is from Zandyon. Well, I surprised to find out through Yahoo, Altavista search that this whole discussions has been pasted on other sites which I have no access to them and they even don't recognize my email address while they show it on their sites. Is that the way to distroy other small companies? Here the links to these sites: I have already asked the webmaster of Velocity to remove it and he did that but this one I just let it stay for other people who trust this fourm. http://www.javakb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/java-programmer/38559/Free-online-Java-test -examination-on-saryos-com Zandyon ... >This message is from Zandyon. This message is from Andrew. I will be willing to explain your apparent misunderstandings about usenet, just as soon as I hear the simple answer to my simple question, requoted below. "Do you have an affiliation with this site? Yes or no?"  SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.athompson.info/andrew/ zandyon@yahoo.com wrote: > Well, I surprised to find out through Yahoo, Altavista search that > this whole discussions has been pasted on other sites which I have no [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > that but this one I just let it stay for other people who trust this > fourm. Why should this conversation be removed from the archives? SignatureLew > zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Well, I surprised to find out through Yahoo, Altavista search that [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > -- > Lew Zandyon answers Can't you see? what ever I type here it would be pasted ont the following site too (javakb) while I can't there defend my self against your accusations. Please click on the following link to understand what I mean. http://www.javakb.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/java-programmer/38559/Free-onlin... Zandyon. >>> Well, I surprised to find out through Yahoo, Altavista search that >>> I have already asked the webmaster of Velocity to remove it and he did >>> that but this one I just let it stay for other people who trust this >>> fourm. Lew wrote: >> Why should this conversation be removed from the archives? Zandyon answers > Can't you see? what ever I type here it would be pasted ont the No, I can't. > following site too (javakb) while I can't there defend my self against > your accusations. I have made no accusations against you. What are you talking about? If you feel you must defend yourself, do it here where everyone can read what you say. This is a public forum. Your censorious urges notwithstanding, people post here knowing that their words are preserved for posterity. What's said on Usenet is for all intents and purposes permanent. Why stops you from standing behind what you post? If you feel someone has said something unfair about you, why do you attempt to hide the accusations instead of responding to them? What have people said about you, and what is the truth? I also want to know, what, if any, is your affiliation with sary...com? SignatureLew zandyon@gmail.com, 15.10.2007 16:34: >> zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Well, I surprised to find out through Yahoo, Altavista search that [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > following site too (javakb) while I can't there defend my self against > your accusations. There are several site in the internet that replicate information from usenet. Google groups beeing probably the most popular, but there are others out there (even paid ones) that also "paste" your posts (and mine as well) to their sites. Thomas > zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > > .. > > "Do you have an affiliation with this site? Yes or no?" This message is from Zandyon to Andrew and Lew, you both ask me the same question and you both earlier in this discussion accused me of spammer. If you both have one single evidence to prove that I am a spammer then please show this to every one in this forum and I promise you both to answer your question honestly. Zandyon. >> zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >you both ask me the same question and you both earlier in this >discussion accused me of spammer. *What* *is* *your* *affiliation* *with* *Saryos*? Why are you avoiding providing an answer? That tells the reader more (and more clearly) than any accusation that may or may not have been flung your way. Imagine if someone had asked.. "Oh, by the way, how did you hear about the free testing?" Would you give them a simple answer, or p*ss them about, as you have been trying to do here? >If you both have one single evidence to prove that I am a spammer ... Your conduct, and your evasive, defensive nature speak louder than words. But you are mistaken in thinking I feel any need to prove anything. *You* started this conversation and that makes it your responsibility to handle whatever comes. That is just the way usenet works. SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.athompson.info/andrew/ >>> zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >>> [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > handle whatever comes. That is just the way usenet > works. What he said. Act like an honest person and we might change our opinion. Keep acting like a fraud, as you've been doing, and reap the consequences. What is your affiliation with Saryos? SignatureLew >> zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > you both ask me the same question and you both earlier in this > discussion accused me of spammer. Where have I accused you of being a spammer? Until you made this ridiculous claim, I never said you were anythying, but merely asked questions, which I notice you refuse to answer. Now, I am convinced that you're a spammer and a fraud, Zandyon. So, now, yes, I'm calling you spammer. Spammer. SignatureLew > Now, I am convinced that you're a spammer and a fraud, Zandyon. So, now, yes, > I'm calling you spammer. Spammer. > > -- > Lew Zandyon Your emotional reactions and denying your own words for the second time in this conversation makes me end the conversation and remind you where else you accuse me in this forum: Here your own words. Lew ******You would then guarantee that no one would visit the site for which you spam ********* >> Now, I am convinced that you're a spammer and a fraud, Zandyon. So, now, yes, >> I'm calling you spammer. Spammer. ... >Your emotional reactions and denying your own words for the second >time in this conversation makes me end the conversation and remind you >where else you accuse me in this forum: Here your own words. >Lew > ******You would then guarantee that no >one would visit the site for which you spam ********* Lew's last sentence before that, began with the words .. "If you .." thereby making it an hypothetical point (as far as I can best describe it). It was /not/ an accusation. FWIW - I will be blunt about the fact that my first post accused you of a variety of things, and so far I have no reason to my change my opinion on any one of them. *What* *is* *your* *affiliation* *with* *Saryos*? SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.athompson.info/andrew/ >>> Now, I am convinced that you're a spammer and a fraud, Zandyon. So, now, yes, >>> I'm calling you spammer. Spammer. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > *What* *is* *your* *affiliation* *with* *Saryos*? Forget it. Zandyon is a liar and a spammer. You'll never get an answer from that lying spammer. SignatureLew > This message is from Zandyon. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Zandyon Apparently you use something without knowing what it is. See http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/what-is/part1/ as to what Usenet is and what it's not. This is Usenet, you have to accept whatever you post as being "released into the wild", i.e. you lose control over it. And unsolicited advertising is commonly called SPAM. Here's a nice article on it: http://kb.iu.edu/data/afne.html SignatureSabine Dinis Blochberger Op3racional www.op3racional.eu > And unsolicited advertising is commonly called SPAM. Completely untrue. It's called "spam". "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods for their canned meat product. SignatureLew > > And unsolicited advertising is commonly called SPAM. > > Completely untrue. It's called "spam". "SPAM" is a trademark of Hormel Foods > for their canned meat product. Ok got it ;) On Oct 8, 3:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > Tip: > I have recently visited a website which makes it possible for every > one to test his / her Java programming skills. saryos.com offers three > levels (Beginners level, Medior, Advanced) Java test examinations. > After each test examination you can compare your answers with the > correct answers. I think that it is very handy. I am glad to see your reaction Andrew (Are you really Andrew?) Do you want to be popular by attacking people? You need first to know what Java is and what kind of services saryos.com offers before attacking me. This site offering his service for free and it is a good site. I advice you too to visit it and judge it your self. Don't waste time to call me a spammer and what else......... I have posted this in many places because I want every one who wants to learn Java benefit from the free services of Saryos instead of paying alot of money for it. >On Oct 8, 3:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >> Tip: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >what Java is and what >kind of services saryos.com offers ... Do you have an affiliation with this site? Yes or no? SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.athompson.info/andrew/ On Oct 13, 4:17 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote: > On Oct 8, 3:20 pm, zand...@yahoo.com wrote:> Tip: > > I have recently visited a website which makes it possible for every [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > I am glad to see your reaction Andrew (Are you really Andrew?) > Do you want to be popular by attacking people? > You need first to know > what Java is and what > kind of services saryos.com offers before attacking me. Like Andrew I think you are a liar and spammer. I didn't bother to check what kind of scam, ripoff or advertising deal you are running. The fact that you see a need to spam for your site means you and that site can not be trusted, because you have no ethics and don't respect others. You have decided to go as low as the pills, phishing, pump&dump spammers. You did chose the dishonest method of advertising via spam with a disguise story "I have recently visited a website" Oh, sure. We judge you by your dishonest methods. Now live with the reputation you choose for yourself. zand...@yahoo.com wrote: >> I am glad to see your reaction Andrew (Are you really Andrew?) >> Do you want to be popular by attacking people? > >> You need first to know >> what Java is and what >> kind of services saryos.spam offers before attacking me. > Like Andrew I think you are a liar and spammer. I didn't bother to > check what kind of scam, ripoff or advertising deal you are running. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sure. We judge you by your dishonest methods. Now live with the > reputation you choose for yourself. Another factor people judge, zandyon, is whether you react defensively and derisively, characterizing people's responses as "attacks", or whether you are contrite and forthright in your response, fully revealing your affiliation with the web site and politely asking for permission to discuss your service. If you were to respond in a defensive manner, characterizing people's objections to your violations of prevailing social standards as "attacks" rather than being nice yourself, then you would seriously degrade your credibility to the point of non-existence. You would then guarantee that no one would visit the site for which you spam, thus depriving you of whatever benefit you imagine you get by inducing people to visit it. Is that your intent, zandyon? SignatureLew > Tip: > I have recently spammed a website which makes it possible for every > one te test his / her Java programming skills. Having visited the website, I see that it is minimal - it has no "contact us" or explanatory information, just plunges you into the site (once you register). It doesn't confirm email addresses of registrants. Its copy is not copy-edited. There is a flat-out error on the "Text examination information" page: "... to get your exam result and recommendations basic [sic] on your answers." It's also a bit unimaginative: "Finally you have an opportunity to compare your answers with the correct answers." Yes, finally. The layout is on the difficult-to-use side. The visual design looks like it came from a wizard. Let's see how "correct" their answers are. > 1- What appears in the standard output when this program is invoked? > public class Loop { [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > } > } None of the answers allow for the possibility that no output or partial output might appear. There is no "next" or "submit answer" option on the exam questions. The only instruction is: > Select the question which you want to answer by clicking on it. I clicked on a checkbox but the page just sits there. OK, I'll click on the "Question 2" link and trust that somehow that submits my answer. ... Nope. It says I answered 0 of the five questions, when in fact, I answered all five. Navigation through the site is clumsy at best, completely useless on the actual exam pages. The layout is amateurish and the quality control nil. This website needs a lot of work. It is not suitable at present to support a Java programmer's professional development. SignatureLew >> Tip: >> I have recently spammed a website which makes it possible for every >> one te test his / her Java programming skills. > >Having visited the website, ... I did that too, before my first reply, but.. >..I see that it is minimal - it has no "contact us" >or explanatory information, just plunges you into the site (once you >register). ... ..Oh yep. That was the point where I bailed out. I could not actually be bothered checking if the email address needed to be valid ( though I was tempted, for a moment, to offer up 'zandyon's yahoo address, and ask him ..her ..it to bounce the password to me via the group ;). SignatureAndrew Thompson http://www.athompson.info/andrew/ Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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