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blackdown.org closes shop

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Hunter Gratzner - 01 Sep 2007 08:11 GMT
I was searching for some information and came around blackdown.org.
There I was greeted with the message

> The home of Java on Linux retires!

on the front page. I don't know if this is just a recent event or if
this happened some time ago.

For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
shafted by Sun somehow when Sun announced a Linux port Sun did in
parallel with Borland. But they did do their thing, and their port
later became the basis for the Java implementation Sun now distributes
and maintains for Linux.

blackdown.org stagnated for the last few years and I guess their
corporation with Sun became obsolete when Sun open-sourced Java. But
wouldn't it be for blackdown.org there would be less "run everywhere"
in Java today.
SadRed - 01 Sep 2007 10:43 GMT
> I was searching for some information and came around blackdown.org.
> There I was greeted with the message
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> wouldn't it be for blackdown.org there would be less "run everywhere"
> in Java today.

Yes, they were great. They helped us lot.
Andrew Thompson - 01 Sep 2007 12:44 GMT
Apologies for the OT sidetrack..*

But since you popped  by, did you notice the message
announcing the return of the tame codes?  (It was on the
same thread you mentioned it).

*  OK - I'm not that sorry, but then (checks poster
list) I am suspecting you will both forgive my small
indulgence.

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Lew - 01 Sep 2007 12:46 GMT
> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were

I'm sorry to ask, but I honestly do not know what you mean here.  I am lost
because "corporate" is an adjective, so I have no idea what you mean by its
use as a verb.  What did you mean?

> blackdown.org stagnated for the last few years and I guess their
> corporation with Sun became obsolete when Sun open-sourced Java. But

Based on the above, I'm guessing that blackdown.org and Sun did not form a
joint venture.

I am not being sarcastic at all here - I'm just trying to understand what you
were saying.

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rossum - 01 Sep 2007 13:52 GMT
>> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
>> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
>
>I'm sorry to ask, but I honestly do not know what you mean here.  I am lost
>because "corporate" is an adjective, so I have no idea what you mean by its
>use as a verb.  What did you mean?
? co-operate ?

rossum
Wildemar Wildenburger - 01 Sep 2007 14:11 GMT
>> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
>> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
>
> I'm sorry to ask, but I honestly do not know what you mean here.  I am
> lost because "corporate" is an adjective, so I have no idea what you
> mean by its use as a verb.  What did you mean?

"co-operate"

Now tell me this wasn't obvious from the context.

/W
Andrew Thompson - 01 Sep 2007 16:34 GMT
>>> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
>>> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Now tell me this wasn't obvious from the context.

<a comment form a disinterested, native English speaker>
The distinction was not obvious to me.
</a comment form a disinterested, native English speaker>

My apologies of this offends anyone, but it just did
not seem 'intuitively obvious' from my perspective.

Please (as a personal request) make your message so
obvious that it could not be mistook by anyone, even
as dumb as me.

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Lew - 01 Sep 2007 16:47 GMT
>>> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
>>> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Now tell me this wasn't obvious from the context.

I believe that would be redundant to say again.

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Wildemar Wildenburger - 01 Sep 2007 16:52 GMT
>>>> For those coming late to Java, blackdown.org were the ones who tried
>>>> to corporate with Sun under an NDA to port Java to Linux. They were
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I believe that would be redundant to say again.

To say what again? :P

How about a poll?

/W
Lew - 01 Sep 2007 16:55 GMT
>>> Now tell me this wasn't obvious from the context.

Lew wrote:
>> I believe that would be redundant to say again.

> To say what again? :P

I love that form of humor.

> How about a poll?

Given that obviousness is subjective, a poll will not reveal much about your
original challenge, which one must assume referred to whether the term's
meaning was obvious to me.  You would, of course, find out if it was obvious
to others, and whether my obtuseness is a statistical anomaly.

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~kurt - 01 Sep 2007 19:15 GMT
> "co-operate"
>
> Now tell me this wasn't obvious from the context.

It looks like one of those annoying spell checker mishaps....

- Kurt


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