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Java Forum / General / May 2007Which is the best free UML tool ?
Hi, Which is the best free UML tool ? Is this UML tool free ? Is this UML tool UML2 compliant ? May I genere Java code from UML with this UML tool ? May I reverse from Java code to UML with this UML tool ? Do you use this UML tool ? Do you like this UML tool ? Tintin92 > Hi, > > Which is the best free UML tool ? No idea what is the best, but I've been using umbrello at home and it is good enough. > Is this UML tool free ? Open source free and $free. > Is this UML tool UML2 compliant ? > May I genere Java code from UML with this UML tool ? > May I reverse from Java code to UML with this UML tool ? I'll let you read up on it. > Do you use this UML tool ? Yep. > Do you like this UML tool ? Works for me. - Kurt Hi, Saying which is the best is really personal perspective. In fact, I did use StarUML. > Hi, > > Which is the best free UML tool ? > > Is this UML tool free ? - Yes > Is this UML tool UML2 compliant ? - Yes > May I genere Java code from UML with this UML tool ? - Yes > May I reverse from Java code to UML with this UML tool ? - Yes > Do you use this UML tool ? - Yes > Do you like this UML tool ? - Sure > Tintin92 StarUML Is this UML tool free ? - Yes Is this UML tool UML2 compliant ? - Yes May I genere Java code from UML with this UML tool ? - Yes May I reverse from Java code to UML with this UML tool ? - Yes Do you use this UML tool ? - Yes Do you like this UML tool ? - Sure > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > Tintin92 > top-posted Tintin92 wrote: >>> Which is the best free UML tool ? Please, please do not top-post. ArgoUML is good. The UML tool built in to NetBeans is supposed to be good.  SignatureLew A: Because it makes the responses hard to follow. Q: Why is it bad? A: Placing responses above the quoted material. Q: What is top-posting? > top-posted Tintin92 wrote: >>> Which is the best free UML tool ? Please, please do not top-post. ArgoUML is good. The UML tool built in to NetBeans is supposed to be good. SignatureLew A: Because it makes the responses hard to follow. Q: Why is it bad? A: Placing responses above the quoted material. Q: What is top-posting? > > top-posted > Tintin92 wrote: > > >>> Which is the best freeUMLtool? > > Please, please do not top-post. That's a principle that some people like and respect and the other don't, and, of course, disregard. How about another one: Do not try to impose your principles upon others? Or how about yet another: Do not change a sensible topic to an insensible one? More? Do not post to correct other people's errors in typing or spelling. Do not post in stream when the content doesn't help one of the posters (mainly the OP). Do not post off topic. Do not contribute to an unfriendly environment in a newsgroup. I try my best to respect the above. I make this exception because, it seems to me, one encounters just the opposite too often browsing this newsgroup, by the same group of people, one of distinguished members of which is the quoted poster. I guess this one was one too much for me. fmberisha > How about another one: Do not try to impose your principles upon > others? Hi! Welcome to Usenet. You must be new here. And if not, you should know better. ;) This has been an established rule of etiquette in Usenet groups for as long as I can remember. I used to resist it too, and got pulled into many flame wars, but there's little point. Besides, consider this. Some people use newsreaders that don't display discussions by thread. In such a newsreader, it's difficult to follow a conversation that is top posted because the responses come before the questions. SignatureJoe fmberisha@gmail.com wrote: >> How about another one: Do not try to impose your principles upon >> others? > Hi! Welcome to Usenet. You must be new here. And if not, you should know > better. ;) > > This has been an established rule of etiquette in Usenet groups for as > long as I can remember. I used to resist it too, and got pulled into > many flame wars, but there's little point. Regarding fmberisha's points, I love it when people try to sound high minded as their justification for being rude and to resist suggestions to improve their communication. I requested nicely to Harry that they not top-post, since as Joe says, "This has been an established rule of etiquette in Usenet groups for as long as I can remember." It helps Harry because now their posts can be clearer and attract a better caliber of respondent. It was clear that Harry was relatively new to UseNet, so a gentle insertion of a hint as to Netiquette should be helpful. You would rather no one help Harry, and sling mud at those who do. Fine, just don't disingenuously stand on supposedly altruistic principle whilst promoting poor manners and ineffective communication. SignatureLew > I requested nicely to Harry that they not top-post, since as Joe says, > "This has been an established rule of etiquette in Usenet groups for as > long as I can remember." It helps Harry because now their posts can be > clearer and attract a better caliber of respondent. It was clear that > Harry was relatively new to UseNet, so a gentle insertion of a hint as > to Netiquette should be helpful. Lew, how about adding a link to a definition of "top-posting" when you make these requests? I'm not convinced that the people you are advising always understand what you are commenting on. It might result in more people heeding your advice. Dan. SignatureDaniel Dyer https://watchmaker.dev.java.net - Evolutionary Algorithm Framework for Java > Lew, how about adding a link to a definition of "top-posting" when you > make these requests? I'm not convinced that the people you are advising > always understand what you are commenting on. It might result in more > people heeding your advice. I did better than that - I posted an explanation actually in the message about five messages upthread. I'll repeat it here. And for anyone encountering an unfamiliar term, whether it's "top-posting" or "SSCCE" or "GIYF": GIYF. SignatureLew A: Because it makes the responses hard to follow. Q: Why is it bad? A: Placing responses above the quoted material. Q: What is top-posting? > Lew wrote > > A: Because it makes the responses hard to follow. > Q: Why is it bad? > A: Placing responses above the quoted material. > Q: What is top-posting? good! very hee hee! >> Please, please do not top-post. > > That's a principle that some people like and respect and the other > don't, and, of course, disregard. > How about another one: Do not try to impose your principles upon > others? To me Lew's "Please please ..." seems polite. Your "Do not ..." seems rather abrupt and impolite. I'd rather not be left ignorant of any faux-pas I committed in the eyes of the people from whom I seek help. > That's a principle that some people like and respect and the other > don't, and, of course, disregard. > How about another one: Do not try to impose your principles upon > others? This is more than just someone's principle. His advice is good advice. Here is why. When you mix top posting and bottom posting, it can be very difficult following a thread when searching an archive. You need to choose one method, and stick with it. Bottom posting makes more sense most of the time because you can easily snip unnecessary parts of the quote, and respond directly below. This doesn't work so well (or at all) with top posting. So, bottom posting it is. > More? Do not post to correct other people's errors in typing or > spelling. Spelling is nitpicking, but pointing out good netiquette is the only way people (myself included back when I discovered Usenet) learn. There is nothing wrong with it when done nicely. Just like pointing out a quick Google search will give you the answer you are looking for. - Kurt > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > Tintin92 i used staruml but it used to give me problems and i got turned off with it. > Which is the best free UML tool ? Another good, free UML tool is ArgoUML: http://argouml.tigris.org/ Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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