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Java Forum / General / March 2007Do I need to keep all the Java updates?
My WinXP computer shows all this: Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Currently installed programs: J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 2 J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 3 J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 4 J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 6 J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 10 Each one is a separately installed program from the Windows point of view. Should I keep them all? I would like to leave only the highest numbered update and remove the rest. TIA, -Ramon F Herrera > My WinXP computer shows all this: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > view. Should I keep them all? I would like to leave only the highest > numbered update and remove the rest. What you could do is to remove *all* of them, and then to download and install JSE Runtime Environment 6.0. - Oliver > > My WinXP computer shows all this: > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > - Oliver Hmm, Isn't 6.0 still in beta? Daniel Pitts wrote on 27.02.2007 22:38: > Hmm, Isn't 6.0 still in beta? The final version has been released last December Thomas > Hmm, Isn't 6.0 still in beta? http://www.java.com/getjava/ offers 5.0 update 11, but http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp offers 6.0. Does this mean that 6.0 is in a new category of gamma release that is offered to some but not to others? >> Hmm, Isn't 6.0 still in beta? > > http://www.java.com/getjava/ offers 5.0 update 11, but > http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp offers 6.0. Does this mean > that 6.0 is in a new category of gamma release that is offered to some but > not to others? 6.0 is GA now. Arne > 6.0 is GA now. So why does http://www.java.com/getjava/ still offer 5.0 update 11? >> 6.0 is GA now. > > So why does http://www.java.com/getjava/ still offer 5.0 update 11? Occam's Razor: "left hand doesn't know what right hand is doing". - Oliver >> 6.0 is GA now. > > So why does http://www.java.com/getjava/ still offer 5.0 update 11? SUN make mistakes just like everybody else. Arne > SUN make mistakes just like everybody else. I mentioned this discrepancy to the folks at Sun weeks ago. I think there must be some purpose, similar to Firefox 1.5 not advising upgrades to 2.0 yet, but 2.0 being featured on the Web site. My guess is that this is some form of gradual roll-out. But both 5 update 11 and 6 have major bugs so I've taken refuge in the 7 alpha, which seems very stable to me. > But both 5 update 11 and 6 have major bugs so I've taken refuge in the 7 > alpha, which seems very stable to me. What bugs?  SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ > What bugs? In 1.5: http://www.segal.org/java/sun_jit/index.html, fixed in 1.6 In 1.6: http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6368342, fixed in one of the early 1.7 builds. These bugs were so annoying that we used the Microsoft VM for demos until the 1.7 builds came out, despite the memory leak in the Microsoft VM and its problem with Tablet PC support. >> What bugs? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the 1.7 builds came out, despite the memory leak in the Microsoft VM and its > problem with Tablet PC support. It is annoying when it is your code that turns up obscure bugs. SignatureKnute Johnson email s/nospam/knute/ > It is annoying when it is your code that turns up obscure bugs. One of the bugs turned out to have been reported by two others, so it was not that obscure. I think people are less likely to report Hotspot bugs because it is hard to create a reductionistic example to illustrate the bug; I know I had that attitude. Other bugs we've found using Tablet PCs, and the bugs turn out to be race conditions exposed by the Tablets but present for everyone. When you have a huge applet running in unusual environments you find quite a few bugs. But the guys at Sun took them very seriously, at the highest levels of the company, and all the most serious bugs are already fixed in alpha versions of Java 7. > When you have a huge applet running in unusual environments you find quite a > few bugs. But the guys at Sun took them very seriously, at the highest > levels of the company, and all the most serious bugs are already fixed in > alpha versions of Java 7. As someone else mentioned, Sun makes mistakes like everyone else. The measure of a man or an organization is how they deal with their mistakes. From your description Sun deserves kudos in that department. -- Lew > As someone else mentioned, Sun makes mistakes like everyone else. The > measure of a man or an organization is how they deal with their mistakes. > From your description Sun deserves kudos in that department. I was impressed with how well they responded on the bugs. The versions offered at various sites, the subject being discussed earlier in the thread, may be something other than a mistake, possibly some gradual roll-out. > My WinXP computer shows all this: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > view. Should I keep them all? I would like to leave only the highest > numbered update and remove the rest. Unless you have a specific need (like for testing) to be able to use a specific update, then the last one should be fine. Note that Java 5 update 11 and Java 6 are both available. Arne Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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