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Learning J2EE without prior knowledge of Java

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angsapurai@gmail.com - 13 Feb 2007 10:59 GMT
Hello.....
I need your opinion on this. I don't have any programming experience
in Java.
I only have minimal experience in C++ programming but that was many
many years (> 5 years) ago.
Do you think it is possible to start learning J2EE without any
experience in Java?

Thanks
Angsa
bugbear - 13 Feb 2007 11:38 GMT
> Hello.....
> I need your opinion on this. I don't have any programming experience
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Do you think it is possible to start learning J2EE without any
> experience in Java?

Only to the extend that you learn java at the same time.

Java is not a conceptually difficult language;
in practice "Java Experience" is (actually) familiarity
with libraries and working practices.

   BugBear
Robert Klemme - 13 Feb 2007 11:40 GMT
> I need your opinion on this. I don't have any programming experience
> in Java.
> I only have minimal experience in C++ programming but that was many
> many years (> 5 years) ago.
> Do you think it is possible to start learning J2EE without any
> experience in Java?

That depends on what you mean by "learning".  You can certainly read all
the conceptual documentation and understand a great deal of it without
Java knowledge.  Does that mean you can go into a shop and build up a
J2EE system?  Most likely not.

Kind regards

    robert
Alex Hunsley - 13 Feb 2007 12:15 GMT
> Hello.....
> I need your opinion on this. I don't have any programming experience
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Do you think it is possible to start learning J2EE without any
> experience in Java?

Yes and no. Yes, in theory you could start learning J2EE and Java and
the same time, and learn a certain amount. But 'no' in that you wouldn't
be very experienced at Java, and confusion over Java language issues
versus confusion over J2EE concepts and issues would trip you up - if
something wasn't working the way you expected, how would you know if it
was a J2EE issue/concept, or just an issue with your understanding of
Java? In short, learning something is more fruitful when you limit the
amount of unknowns.
So in summary, I don't think it's wise.

What you gives you the interest in learning J2EE in particular, by the way?
Sanjay - 16 Feb 2007 18:54 GMT
> Hello.....
> I need your opinion on this. I don't have any programming experience
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Thanks
> Angsa

I woldn't advise that. I am one of those people, who migrated to
java/j2ee from something else. It is incrementally harder to grasp
everything without knowing core java first. Besides if you are good at
c++, you can learn java with a week.


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