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Java Forum / General / February 2007Java development and Administrator rights
Hey folks. I don't know much about java, which leads to having the following issue. I am a computer administrator for a school in which some students take a java programming course. I am being told that these students need administrative rights to the machine in order to run the program, compile anything they have made etc. Is this true, or do they just need rights to a certain folder? I'm not really keen on a bunch of 15-17 year old kids running amok in my computer labs with full admin rights. They all have network drives on the server. is there any way to run it from there? Thanx in advance for any light shed on this. Handmade wrote on 12.02.2007 22:56: > Hey folks. I don't know much about java, which leads to having the > following issue. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > administrative rights to the machine in order to run the program, > compile anything they have made etc. Whoever told you that was wrong. You might need Admin rights to install the JDK and the IDE (depending on the IDE and the location where you install it). But at least NetBeans runs fine with a non-Admin Account even if NetBeans itself is installed in a protected directory (e.g. c:\Program Files). I'm pretty sure Eclipse does not need Admin rights to run as well. Thomas On Feb 12, 6:14 pm, Thomas Kellerer <TAAXADSCB...@spammotel.com> wrote: > Handmade wrote on 12.02.2007 22:56:> Hey folks. I don't know much about java, which leads to having the > > following issue. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Thomas okay the one we are running is JSDK version 1.4.2_10 so your saying once it is installed, anyone should be able to use it and compile without any special rights? > so your saying once it is installed, anyone should be able to use it > and compile without any special rights? Which operating system and version are you using? With the Vista lockdown all sorts of new problems are coming up. > > so your saying once it is installed, anyone should be able to use it > > and compile without any special rights? > > Which operating system and version are you using? With the Vista lockdown > all sorts of new problems are coming up. Windows XP SP2 >>> so your saying once it is installed, anyone should be able to use it >>> and compile without any special rights? >> Which operating system and version are you using? With the Vista lockdown >> all sorts of new problems are coming up. > > Windows XP SP2 I would think that as long as your students have read/write access to the directories they are working in they shouldn't have any problems. For example, in the shop I work in, everyone has a chunk of disk space assigned to them which they have full control over. Even people without admin rights can run Eclipse and work on projects as long as they keep their workspace in their own area. The only problem they *may* encounter is if they are pushed out of the IDE and onto the commandline where they have to put jar files in the correct locations for their CLASSPATH to pick them up. > >> "Handmade" <rusago...@gmail.com> wrote in message > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > where they have to put jar files in the correct locations for their > CLASSPATH to pick them up. okay. so it will work with a network drive as well? say i setup a network drive X:\ for them. gave them 50 MB of space, and full control over that drive. They could develop, compile,or anything they needed to do in that drive barring any CLASSPATH problems? BTW i appreciate everyones input on this. very enlightening. >> >> "Handmade" <rusago...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > anything they needed to do in that drive barring any CLASSPATH > problems? I believe the answer is yes. And even then, any classpath problems that might arise are probably surmountable. CLASSPATH is an environment variable (like the PATH environment variable), and I believe non-admin users can change their own set of environment variables without affecting other users or the rest of the system. I don't know what kind of programs the instructor will want the students to have access to, but it's not unusual for an introductory Java course to rely on nothing more than notepad.exe, "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0\bin\java.exe" and "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0\bin\javac.exe" (where the "jdk1.6.0" part might vary depending on which version of Java the instructor intends to use). As long as the students have read (but not write) access to "C:\Program Files\Java" and all its subdirectories, it should all work fine. - Oliver .. > ..but it's not unusual for an introductory Java course to > rely on nothing more than notepad.exe, .. (snip other things) (shudder) A Java editor that lacks context coloring for keywords & strings etc. I eschew many of the abilities of the heavyweight IDE's, but could not bear programming without a few colors to indicate a mistyped a core class name. At least give the students something like TextPad! Learning Java is not supposed to be *painful*. Andrew T. > ..> ..but it's not unusual for an introductory Java course to > > rely on nothing more than notepad.exe, .. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Andrew T. Force'em to use vi or emacs with highlighting turned off and a console size of 25x10 > I eschew many of the abilities of the heavyweight IDE's Zeus has many of the features of an full blown IDE yet still feels like a lightweight editor: http://www.zeusedit.com/featues.html It does your regulation syntax highlighting, code folding, integrated version control, project/workspace, class browsing etc, yet maintains fast load times and keyboard responsiveness. You can even integrated Java SDK help directly into the editor: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10 Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows IDE >>I eschew many of the abilities of the heavyweight IDE's > > Zeus has many of the features of an full blown IDE yet > still feels like a lightweight editor: > > http://www.zeusedit.com/featues.html 404 I think you meant <http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html> > I think you meant <http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html> I never have been any good at typing ;) Cheers Jussi Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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