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Java Forum / General / February 2007Need non-bloated IDE that runs under Vista
Since my trusty ancient Java IDE doesn't run under Vista, I'm looking for an IDE that will do basic formatted editing with syntax checking and allow me to debug applets running in a browser. I don't need refactoring, I don't need CVS, and I don't even need it to make my JAR files. So far I've looked at Eclipse, which seems bloated and intrusive in offering to modify code for you. I'm also looking at NetBeans, which seems intent on organizing your folders for you and offers to open a browser but I don't see how to debug an applet in a browser. NetBeans has a "community" but I registered for it and never got the password (I have no email filtering). I've seen mention of IDEA, jEdit and jCreator. What would be a good choice for a basic IDE that would allow me to write code, make classes, allow debugging using a browser, but otherwise not try to organize my code for me? You could try BlueJ. > You could try BlueJ. Some think that BlueJ is good for learning OOP in Java. But I do not think that was the original posters desire. Arne > Since my trusty ancient Java IDE doesn't run under Vista, I'm looking for an > IDE that will do basic formatted editing with syntax checking and allow me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > code, make classes, allow debugging using a browser, but otherwise not try > to organize my code for me? JCreator, Crimson Editor (maybe) and SCiTE (comes with Ruby) to name 3. > Since my trusty ancient Java IDE doesn't run under Vista, I'm looking for > an IDE that will do basic formatted editing with syntax checking and > allow me to debug applets running in a browser. Just curious, but what was the trusty ancient Java IDE which allowed you to debug applets in a browser ? I ask because I don't see any easy way of doing it without embedding a somewhat custom browser into the IDE (if you just launch the user's installed browser then it'll almost certainly run in the same OS process as any other browser instances, which means that it would have to share their existing JVM, if any -- which would make setting up a debugging JVM session tricky, if it were possible at all). > I've seen mention of IDEA, jEdit and jCreator. I don't think IDEA counts as non-bloated in your sense (well regarded, yes, light weight no ;-) None too cheap either. You might add jGRASP to the list. But (as far as I know) that also is unable to debug applets in situ. -- chris > Just curious, but what was the trusty ancient Java IDE which allowed you > to > debug applets in a browser ? It was Microsoft's Visual J++. It was very convenient because there were no problems passing browser-dependent parameters determined using JavaScript in the browser page, and therefore no need for a special way of launching the software. >> Since my trusty ancient Java IDE doesn't run under Vista, I'm looking for >> an IDE that will do basic formatted editing with syntax checking and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > to > debug applets in a browser ? For the Sun JRE plug-in, you can set up debug startup options using the Java Control Panel, then attach the debugger to the applet once it is started, as long as the IDE has the capability to attach the debugger to an existing process. Of course, that is not as convenient as a one-step browser launch and wait-for-attach. > You might add jGRASP to the list. But (as far as I know) that also is > unable > to debug applets in situ. It lacks the capability to debug an existing process, but now that you've mentioned it we will add it. We already use an attaching connector for the normal debug launch, so it's fairly trivial. jGRASP currently has some problems on Vista as well, but we're working on them. > Since my trusty ancient Java IDE doesn't run under Vista, I'm looking for an > IDE that will do basic formatted editing with syntax checking and allow me [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > code, make classes, allow debugging using a browser, but otherwise not try > to organize my code for me? I do not have clue about what you mean by debugging using a browser. JEdit is a good allround editor that allow you to write code and (unless you install plugins) only do some colour coding. I like it. Arne >What would be a good choice for a basic IDE that would allow me to write >code, make classes, allow debugging using a browser, but otherwise not try >to organize my code for me? Your definition of bloated seems to be my definition of complete so I won't refer you to my list. Roedy Green has a list at <http://mindprod.com/jgloss/ide.html>. > What would be a good choice for a basic IDE that would > allow me to write code, make classes, allow debugging > using a browser, but otherwise not try to organize my > code for me? The Zeus IDE has Java support: http://www.zeusedit.com/php.html NOTE: Zeus is shareware. It does thinks like syntax highlighting, code folding, integrated version control, project/workspace, class browsing etc. It can also be configure for Java intellisensing: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=731 or for integrated Java SDK help: http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10 Jussi Jumppanen Author: Zeus for Windows IDE Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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