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Java Forum / General / January 2007Looking for java programmer to join project
The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is what I needed for starters) but now I want to add more features to it. Some screen shots below: http://www.coronamatrix.org/images/chatwindowcim.png http://www.coronamatrix.org/images/contactlistcim.png There may be some slight differences compared to the latest version. If interested send me and e-mail :). Thanks. > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks. Something I forgot to mention is that this is an open source project so there will be no pay involve :) just the experience is all you'll get. > > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > so there will be no pay involve :) just the experience is all you'll > get. Two things. First, Open Source doesn't mean no-pay. Open Source means that the sourcecode is availible to the end-users. Second, I wouldn't have assumed pay was involved anyway :-) >> > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far >> > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> > Some screen shots >> below:http://www.coronamatrix.org/images/chatwindowcim.pnghttp://www.corona... It looks like another Instant Messenger application. There seems to be a very large array of these on the market today. What's special about yours that makes it a better alternative to the other that are well-known, such as Miranda, the big commercial ones, etc.? >> > There may be some slight differences compared to the latest version. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > sourcecode is availible to the end-users. > Second, I wouldn't have assumed pay was involved anyway :-) Although it didn't come up here, I think it's also important to point out another distinction in that "open source" doesn't mean that the software is free. Take, for instance, MySQL, which has licensing costs for commercial use, and yet many commercial web hosting companies use it for commercial purposes under the misunderstanding that it's free because it's open source.  SignatureRandolf Richardson - kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca The Lumber Cartel, local 42 (Canadian branch) http://www.lumbercartel.ca/ On Jan 30, 4:26 am, "Randolf Richardson" <kingpin +n...@lumbercartel.ca> wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 18:27:28 -0800, Daniel Pitts > > <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> wrote: > It looks like another Instant Messenger application. There seems to be a > very large array of these on the market today. What's special about yours > that makes it a better alternative to the other that are well-known, such > as Miranda, the big commercial ones, etc.? It is and I'm not really claiming it to be something bigger or better than other instant messaging programs out there. This is mainly for experience and I found a need for a LAN messenger (i.e. no internet connection exists) so I decided to figure implement one myself. I haven't really seen one that's free and I wasn't aware that Miranda had that possibility. Obviously the limitations are that you can message outside of the LAN, however, I was just trying to create a means of communication between two houses that are networked but don't have an internet connection. That's all I was looking for :). > Although it didn't come up here, I think it's also important to point out > another distinction in that "open source" doesn't mean that the software > is free. Take, for instance, MySQL, which has licensing costs for > commercial use, and yet many commercial web hosting companies use it for > commercial purposes under the misunderstanding that it's free because it's > open source. Thanks for that info. I did not know that. > On Jan 30, 4:26 am, "Randolf Richardson" <kingpin > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Thanks for that info. I did not know that. Wow... this post had a lot of typos in it! 'so I decided to figure implement one myself' should be: 'so I decided to implement one myself' 'Obviously the limitations are that you can message outside of the LAN' should be: 'Obviously the limitations are that you *can't* message outside of the LAN' Sorry if this caused any confusion. > On Jan 30, 4:26 am, "Randolf Richardson" <kingpin > +n...@lumbercartel.ca> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > (i.e. no internet connection exists) so I decided to figure > implement one myself. I haven't really seen one that's free and I Experience is a noble justification in my view. In your product design, I encourage you to also look into the java.awt.SystemTray class (this is available as of Java v1.6) since many people who are accustomed to using Instant Messenger applications will likely expect that they can minimize to the System Tray. The really nice thing about java.awt.SystemTray is that it is currently supported on KDE and Gnome as well (and hopefully more will be added in the future as well). > wasn't aware that Miranda had that possibility. For a private LAN, I believe you will still need a system to act as a server somewhere, such as an IRC or Jabber server (I'm assuming that many free, and possibly open source, options are available on the internet now). I'm not sure about Jabber, but I know that the IRC protocol (which, as I recall, is very extensive) is documented in the RFCs. > Obviously the limitations are that you can message outside of the LAN, > however, I was just trying to create a means of communication between > two houses that are networked but don't have an internet connection. > That's all I was looking for :). [sNip] You could also set up eMail servers on each system. SignatureRandolf Richardson - kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca The Lumber Cartel, local 42 (Canadian branch) http://www.lumbercartel.ca/ > In your product design, I encourage you to also look into the > java.awt.SystemTray class (this is available as of Java v1.6) since many > people who are accustomed to using Instant Messenger applications will > likely expect that they can minimize to the System Tray. The really nice > thing about java.awt.SystemTray is that it is currently supported on KDE > and Gnome as well (and hopefully more will be added in the future as well). I was going to hold off on that for now but I did have it planned. > > wasn't aware that Miranda had that possibility. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > now). I'm not sure about Jabber, but I know that the IRC protocol (which, > as I recall, is very extensive) is documented in the RFCs. Well... maybe I should be more clear. As it stands you are able to chat with others on the local network without needing a server. As for a system acting as a server. Yes that is true ... the client has an integrated server. So far I have pseudo implemented xmpp protocol but I don't plan on doing that thoroughly. I'm actually thinking about using the Smack api to help me out with that part. When a user logs in ... all the users currently online will be notified immediately. Then in turn the online users will notify the user who all is online. Of course this takes out the part where you don't have the choice of who you want to add but that can be added if need be. So basically all I really want to do is add features to it. I have quite a few that I want to add but I would like to work with someone on these features. Some of them can turn into huge projects depending on what problems we encounter. > It looks like another Instant Messenger application. There seems to be a > very large array of these on the market today. What's special about yours > that makes it a better alternative to the other that are well-known, such > as Miranda, the big commercial ones, etc.? I don't know about the OP's intentions, but it seems to me that for something like Instant Messaging there's a huge benefit to be gained from avoiding the mass-market versions. Improved security. For some reason IM apps seem to be mostly written in C or C++ (a poor choice for any application which is open to uncontrolled data from the Net by design). Also their authors also seem to be unable to resist the temptation to add all sorts of security-reducing complexity -- fluff like skins, plugins, and so on. 'Course, the /down/side is that nobody else will use using your IM app, so you may find it hard to find people to play with ;-) -- chris On Jan 29, 7:27 pm, "Daniel Pitts" <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> wrote: > > > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > > > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > sourcecode is availible to the end-users. > Second, I wouldn't have assumed pay was involved anyway :-) Good point there I guess I should have said this is Free Source then :). Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. > On Jan 29, 7:27 pm, "Daniel Pitts" <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> > wrote: [snip] > > Two things. > > First, Open Source doesn't mean no-pay. Open Source means that the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Good point there I guess I should have said this is Free Source > then :). Anyway, thanks for pointing that out. Actually, you should have said "Freeware", and as a side-note it is also Open Source. :-) On Jan 30, 11:19 am, "Daniel Pitts" <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> wrote: > > On Jan 29, 7:27 pm, "Daniel Pitts" <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> > > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Actually, you should have said "Freeware", and as a side-note it is > also Open Source. :-) Damn it ... got me again! :) Ok... this is a Freeware project :P. > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Thanks. Seems interesting...But i want to know how we will implement with out a server. Email me if you don;t have any problem. byee sreekanth m > > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > byee > sreekanth m The limitation is (as already mentioned) the serverless part will only work on the LAN. I plan on quite possibly interfacing this with like google or something (not that I don't like GTalk but I think it would be a good experience to have a messenger which works both without a server (when no internet connection is available) and with a server (when an internet connection is available)). > > > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > > > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > server (when no internet connection is available) and with a server > (when an internet connection is available)). Or, make it run in peer-2-peer mode, so there are no servers even over the internet? :-) Ofcourse, you'd have to have some sort of public/private encryption if you want any kind of security :-) On Jan 31, 11:26 am, "Daniel Pitts" <googlegrou...@coloraura.com> wrote: > > > > The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > > > > the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Ofcourse, you'd have to have some sort of public/private encryption if > you want any kind of security :-) Yeah... something I would like to worry about later (if I decide to take it that far). Anyway, back on track. If interested and serious about joining send me an e-mail. >> The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far >> the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > a server. > Email me if you don;t have any problem. Whereas if he has any problems, he shouldn't email you? > >> The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far > >> the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Whereas if he has any problems, he shouldn't email you? LOL... I actually didn't see it that way but reading it more thorough this time around... it actually sounds like that's what he means... heh. >> The project is an instant messenger which requires no server. So far >> the messenger works and you can send messages across the LAN (which is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > a server. > Email me if you don;t have any problem. Whereas if he has any problems, he shouldn't email you? Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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