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Java Forum / General / February 2007new java group
Hi, I've created a new group called java-unlimited. It is devoted to show the unlimited power of the java technology and to to talk about all the aspects of java. So please feel free to join us. http://groups.google.com/group/java-unlimited On Jan 29, 10:39 am, "Next Great Thing" <nextgreatth...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/java-unlimited How is that any different than this group or any of the other groups I'm sure you've spammed? Why do you feel the need to fracture? Do you take offense to the way this group is run? Have you tried to reconsile this? "Next Great Thing" wrote: >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/java-unlimited > How is that any different than this group or any of the other groups > I'm sure you've spammed? Why do you feel the need to fracture? Do you > take offense to the way this group is run? Have you tried to > reconsile this? Spammed, multi-posted and, no doubt, full of garbage like other multi-posted spam crap. - Lew > On Jan 29, 10:39 am, "Next Great Thing" <nextgreatth...@gmail.com> > wrote: [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > take offense to the way this group is run? Have you tried to > reconsile this? Well, one obvious difference is that the new group is devoted to a predetermined position that I disagree with. I think every programming languages has its limits. Patricia >> On Jan 29, 10:39 am, "Next Great Thing" <nextgreatth...@gmail.com> >> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > predetermined position that I disagree with. I think every programming > languages has its limits. Machine Language (Assembler, etc.) offers the most freedom and flexibility, but even it is also limited by what the computer and the programmer can do.  SignatureRandolf Richardson - kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca The Lumber Cartel, local 42 (Canadian branch) http://www.lumbercartel.ca/ > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > http://groups.google.com/group/java-unlimited a) Java *isn't* unlimited. No language is, programming or otherwise, is. b) Why the need to split off another group? So, in summary, no thanks. >> Hi, >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > So, in summary, no thanks. Oh, and I forgot c): why would I want to limit myself to a google groups forum? I like doing news (NNTP), not google groups. They're not the same thing. > Oh, and I forgot c): why would I want to limit myself to a google groups > forum? I like doing news (NNTP), not google groups. They're not the same > thing. Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? - Lew >> Oh, and I forgot c): why would I want to limit myself to a google >> groups forum? I like doing news (NNTP), not google groups. They're not >> the same thing. > > Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as > answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? Possibly, I'm not sure! I think Google Groups are implicated in this spate of multiposts - anyone know if this is the case? Google groups (ex deja-news) was originally a way to view and post to usenet, but nowadays Google have their own 'groups' which don't actually go anywhere near Usenet proper - it's that sort of group which the OP has set up, it seems.... lex > - Lew ... > > Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as > > answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? > > Possibly, I'm not sure! I think Google Groups are implicated in this > spate of multiposts - anyone know if this is the case? I have been taking note of the addresses of origin of the multi-posting spammers that I have replied to over the past months. 1 was posting out of a yahoo account in india, 1 from an account listed as 'aol', the rest (AFAIR) were from GG. Andrew T. [sNip] > I have been taking note of the addresses > of origin of the multi-posting spammers that > I have replied to over the past months. [sNip] Keep in mind that spammers regularly forge the sender information in eMail and newsgroup postings because they don't want their own mail servers to get flooded with bounce notifications, complaints/threats, etc. SignatureRandolf Richardson - kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca The Lumber Cartel, local 42 (Canadian branch) http://www.lumbercartel.ca/ > Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as > answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? Google Groups is the reason for all the evil in the world. -- chris On Jan 30, 7:48 am, "Chris Uppal" <chris.up...@metagnostic.REMOVE- THIS.org> wrote: > > Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as > > answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? > > Google Groups is the reason for all the evil in the world. > > -- chris No. Not ALL of it. Microsoft has something to do with it. Also, some good comes out of GG. I'm using it, for instance. [me:] > > Google Groups is the reason for all the evil in the world. > > > No. Not ALL of it. Microsoft has something to do with it. > Also, some good comes out of GG. I'm using it, for instance. Well, if /you/ are allowed to tarnish your reputation, not to mention endanger your soul, in that way, then surely /I/ am allowed to exagerate just a little ;-) This is Usenet, after all[*]. -- chris [*] still, mostly, and no thanks to Google... >> Is Google Groups the reason why the OP's and others' posts post as >> answers to themselves, sometimes repeatedly? > > Google Groups is the reason for all the evil in the world. You're thinking of some other company. Granted, Giggle Groups does have it's issues, but overall I'm glad to see it there because it has increased the awareness of usenet groups to users who otherwise wouldn't know about it. SignatureRandolf Richardson - kingpin+nntp@lumbercartel.ca The Lumber Cartel, local 42 (Canadian branch) http://www.lumbercartel.ca/ [me:] > > Google Groups is the reason for all the evil in the world. > > You're thinking of some other company. Er, actually I'm not. I'm not at all impressed by Google[*], and have little faith in its ethical standards or the effectiveness of its self-policing. ([*] except technically) > Granted, Giggle Groups does have it's issues, but overall I'm glad to see > it there because it has increased the awareness of usenet groups to users > who otherwise wouldn't know about it. That could be likened to a scenario where I steal your car (I do think that Google's assault on Usenet can be likened to theft), plaster advertising all over it, and then use it to run a cheap or free taxi service funded by the advertising. It may be that the cheap/free taxi service would be of benefit to society as a whole (the poor, and so on); it would certainly be that you car got more use; but you would still be left carless... Google running a web-search engine. Fine by me. They do it well, and I have no objection to their use of advertising. Google running a Usenet archive (with advertising) -- again, that's ok by me. Google attempting to subsume Usenet into a sub-section of their own services; Google attempting to move the /primary/ Web onto its own servers: Google attempting to persuade people to move their own private data onto its servers -- none of these things strike me as acceptable (though I view them with different levels of dismay, and for different reasons). -- chris Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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