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ravikumar.0531@gmail.com - 02 Jan 2007 11:09 GMT
'oak' is renamed by java why?
ravikumar.0531@gmail.com - 02 Jan 2007 11:13 GMT
On Jan 2, 4:09 pm, ravikumar.0...@gmail.com wrote:
> 'oak' is renamed by java why?
ravikumar.0531@gmail.com - 02 Jan 2007 11:15 GMT
On Jan 2, 4:09 pm, ravikumar.0...@gmail.com wrote:
> 'oak' is renamed by java why?
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz - 02 Jan 2007 11:15 GMT
And thus spoke ravikumar.0531@gmail.com...

> 'oak' is renamed by java why?

Copyright, as far as I know. There already was a programming language
with that name (at least, it says so in my favorite Java Ebook).

Flo
ck - 02 Jan 2007 11:46 GMT
> Copyright, as far as I know. There already was a programming language
> with that name (at least, it says so in my favorite Java Ebook).
>
> Flo

What's your favourite Java Ebook?

Ck
Flo 'Irian' Schaetz - 02 Jan 2007 12:18 GMT
And thus spoke ck...

> What's your favourite Java Ebook?

The german one *g* It's called "Java ist auch eine Insel".

Flo
ck - 02 Jan 2007 13:38 GMT
> And thus spoke ck...
>
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>
> Flo

I guess it would not go in my collection of ebook. Thanks though.

Cheers,
Ck
Christopher Benson-Manica - 02 Jan 2007 13:50 GMT
> What's your favourite Java Ebook?

Of legally available ones, surely Bruce Eckel's books belong near the
top, even though the material they present is now quite dated:

http://www.janiry.com/bruce-eckel/

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ck - 02 Jan 2007 14:18 GMT
> > What's your favourite Java Ebook?
>
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> C. Benson Manica           | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I
> cbmanica(at)gmail.com      | don't, I need to know.  Flames welcome.

Well I personally did not like Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java
much(found it quite soporific), could not read it much. It's quite
bloated up, I find "The Java programming Language" concise and to the
point. Of course TIJ is available legally.

Cheers,
Ck
Christopher Benson-Manica - 02 Jan 2007 21:55 GMT
> Well I personally did not like Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java
> much(found it quite soporific), could not read it much. It's quite
> bloated up, I find "The Java programming Language" concise and to the
> point. Of course TIJ is available legally.

A better question would have been "What's your favorite Java book?",
since e-books are either illegal or worthless (with the exception of
Eckel's book, IMHO; obviously YMV).

(Actually, the freely available Sun reference material is extensive
and useful.)

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ck - 02 Jan 2007 22:05 GMT
> > Well I personally did not like Bruce Eckel's Thinking in Java
> > much(found it quite soporific), could not read it much. It's quite
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> (Actually, the freely available Sun reference material is extensive
> and useful.)

Did I mention "The Java programming language"? More over I was talking
about books (not just ebooks). I have a copy(or access to) of TIJ, JPL,
Headfirst Java, Headfirst Servlets and JSP, Headfirst EJB, Headfirst
Design pattern, Inside the JVM, How tomcat works, Complete reference to
name a few.(BTW I am not talking about ebooks).

Cheers,
Ck
Greg R. Broderick - 03 Jan 2007 22:13 GMT
>> What's your favourite Java Ebook?
>
> Of legally available ones, surely Bruce Eckel's books belong near the
> top, even though the material they present is now quite dated:
>
> http://www.janiry.com/bruce-eckel/

Or, one could go directly to the author's web site and get the up-to-date  
fourth edition of the book (or at least the first seven chapters
thereof):

<http://mindview.net/Books/TIJ4>

Cheers!
GRB
John Ersatznom - 04 Jan 2007 14:17 GMT
>>>What's your favourite Java Ebook?
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> fourth edition of the book (or at least the first seven chapters
> thereof):

Guess how many Java books I have (E or otherwise): Zero.

Yep. Zero. Who needs 'em? The website java.sun.com has nearly everything
you'll ever need, aside from third-party libraries and their docs and
some random stuff. Google and Wikipedia have the rest.

Save your money.
Chris Uppal - 04 Jan 2007 19:13 GMT
> Guess how many Java books I have (E or otherwise): Zero.

I think that you would find value in either or both of the JLS or the JVM
spec -- both of which e-books are freely downloadable from Sun's website
somewhere.

   -- chris
ck - 04 Jan 2007 19:30 GMT
> > Guess how many Java books I have (E or otherwise): Zero.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>     -- chris

Of course. No body spoke of these bibles before.

Cheers,
Ck
John Ersatznom - 06 Jan 2007 03:19 GMT
>>>Guess how many Java books I have (E or otherwise): Zero.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Of course. No body spoke of these bibles before.

Oh, come on, *Sun's own downloadable documentation* doesn't count.
Doorstops with a big JAVA in a saturated primary color sitting on
bookstore shelves, and "ebooks" that cost twice as much and are full of
evil DRM, on the other hand ...

Mind you, we ARE entering a new era, in which the Almighty Thud* has
taken on a whole new meaning -- it's the sound you hear three hours
after clicking "Download SDK API documentation" links for large Java
class libraries, esp. the core JDK ones themselves. :) (It's also the
sound you hear a little later, seeing the Disk Full error with the
progress bar at 90%, when you bang your head repeatedly against the case
containing the 250GB Maxtor drive you just clogged with it all.)

* http://martinfowler.com/distributedComputing/thud.html


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