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Java Forum / General / January 2007Help Needed.. URGENT
Hi All, I am new to this block, I am intrested to build my career in Java. Rigth now i have an theoritical knowledege of Core Java but fail to implement in practical part. I need an help from you all, how can I improve my practical implementation. Furthure i need to learn J2EE escp JSF. Please Help me! Soumya. G Hi Som, I can understand your predicament. Well I am going through a similar situation. I can tell you what I am doing about it. My knowledge was limited to the theoretical area of OOPs, but that is actually helping me in my endeavor to learn practical programming. I would recommend a good book on Java and there is no dearth of these. And then play around with the example code in the book. For example if there is an applet which displays a number that could be modified using an if-else block. This is just a basic example. As you go on modifying the code the language should start making sense and hopefully you can write larger code. It is quite time-consuming though. But if you keep focussed then it should be ok. There are lots of people in this news group and in others that can help you if you get stuck. Hope this helps. Cheers Roohbir > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Soumya. G Thanks, Currently i am refering Thinking in Java by Bruce. I even have complete ref by Herbert. But i prefer sun tutorial for refernec. Do you think its worth refering? > Hi Som, > I can understand your predicament. Well I am going through a similar [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > Soumya. G Thanks, Currently i am refering Thinking in Java by Bruce. I even have complete ref by Herbert. But i prefer sun tutorial for refernec. Do you think its worth refering? > Hi Som, > I can understand your predicament. Well I am going through a similar [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > Soumya. G I tried Thinking in Java but gave up as I found it confusing. But it might work for you. I am using Deitel's Java How to Program. Although the Sun Tutorials are the best reference they are not very reader friendly. I use them with Deitel's now after 6 months working in Java but I used Deitel to begin with as it takes you through step by step. One book and the Sun Webpages are enough, I think. > Thanks, > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > > > > > Soumya. G > I tried Thinking in Java but gave up as I found it confusing. But it > might work for you. I am using Deitel's Java How to Program. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > > > > > > > Soumya. G Hi som, i reccomend reading a book in your native langauge - it will be much easier and fluid. furthermore, i reccomend the book "Head first JAVA" which is a very fun book to learn from, with much humor and that can keep you interseted even when the topic matter itself can be a little boring... HTH, Elad eladk...@gmail.com wrote: > > I tried Thinking in Java but gave up as I found it confusing. But it > > might work for you. I am using Deitel's Java How to Program. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > HTH, > Elad I certainly agree with Elad that one should read book in "native language" unfortunately you would not find any good Java book for reference in "Kannada"(I presume Som is from karnataka, I might be wrong), "Hindi" or for that matter for plethora of Indian Language that exist. Anyway, I too believe (just like Elad) that Head first Java is good book to begin with. One more that comes in my mind is "The Java Programming Langauge" by Ken and Gosling himself. Head first Design patterns and Head first Servlets and JSP are also good reference in their own area of interest(in case you would like to learn about patterns and J2EE). Other books on the same line that I can suggest is "Core J2EE? Patterns: Best Practices and Design Strategies, Second Edition" By Deepak Alur, John Crupi, Dan Malks There are few more good books that I can think of like Bitter Java Inside the Java Virtual machine, Java Language Specification, JVM specification Effective Java?: Programming Language Guide by Joshua Bloch I did not quite understand what does Som mean by Practical implementation, Java can be used in different scenarios, Like Core Java, PDE (eclipse) could be small module/project. Java can also be used in J2ME or could be used in Enterprise application development (J2EE). So you would need to be specific about what sort of platform are you looking forward to use Java (for Practical implementation). There are numerous Open Source projects try freashmeat or SourceForge, or java net, read the documents associated with them and you can figure out if that generates enough interest or not. If it does then pick up a module and read it, try to figure out what or why it has been coded like that. I am not really sure if picking up a project and reading about it like this is a good idea or not. May be other members can put forward their point. Hope this helps. Cheers, Ck http://www.gfour.net Please do not top post. > And then play around with the example code in the book. For example if > there is an applet which displays a number that could be modified using > an if-else block. This is just a basic example. If it's an applet, it's not a basic example. It is better to learn Java on applications, then tackle the unique difficulties of applet programming. As others have said, write lots of code to learn things. Musician asking a stranger in Manhattan, New York, for directions: "Pardon me, can you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?" Response: "Practice, practice, practice!" - Lew Thanks all.. I have already started to practice from Basics. Now i am concentrating on core Java later i want to do J2EE. I consulted few of my friends they said before getting into J2EE you need to know Core Java so i am just concentrating on Core Java first. Soumya > Please do not top post. > > > And then play around with the example code in the book. For example if > > there is an applet which displays a number that could be modified using > > an if-else block. This is just a basic example. > If it's an applet, it's not a basic example. It is better to learn Java on > applications, then tackle the unique difficulties of applet programming. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > - Lew Top posting re-ordered. Lew wrote: >> Please do not top post. > Thanks all.. > > I have already started to practice from Basics. Now i am concentrating > on core Java later i want to do J2EE. I consulted few of my friends > they said before getting into J2EE you need to know Core Java so i am > just concentrating on Core Java first. A: Because it makes the messages harder to follow. Q: Why shouldn't one top-post? - Lew > Hi All, > > I am new to this block, I am intrested to build my career in Java. > Rigth now i have an theoritical knowledege of Core Java but fail to > implement in practical part. I need an help from you all, how can I > improve my practical implementation. ... Practice, practice, practice. There are two aspects to programming, knowledge and skill. Reading books helps develop knowledge, but not skill. Programming skill comes from writing programs. Start by picking an extremely simple task, and write a program to do it. Then add a bit more to the task, and modify your program to do the new job. If you are learning an API, pick tasks for which that API is a good solution. Interleave reading with programming. As you program, you will think of questions that the books may answer. As you read, you may see things that do not make much sense until you get to that point in your programming. However, remember that programming is the object of the exercise. Books are a means to that end, not an end in themselves. Patricia > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Soumya. G First, we are all glad to help; That's why many of us are here. Realizing you are "new to this block", I hope that don't take the following too harshly. I just wish to help you get the best responses here. Keep in mind "Help Needed.. Urgent" as a subject line is likely to get much scorn, where as "I'm new to Java, how can I get better at it?" would be a more appropriate subject. Also, "Urgent" itself suggests that you are willing to pay a consultent to get some work done soon :-) Usenet is not an instantanious medium, and requestiing "Urgent" help is like sending a snail-mail letter to your local emergency hotline. </soapbox> The best way to improve your pratical knowledge of Java program is to, ahem, practice programming in Java. Write programs, lots of them. Think of something simple, and try to make it happen. Look into programming problems and try to solve them. Recreate simple applications that you use every day. Read books about the subjects you're interested in (such as JSF), and try to make something work that uses it. Hope this helps, and good luck, Daniel. > Hi All, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Soumya. G J2EE should be your focus (unless you can't stand web application development). Even minimal knowledge with J2EE is a good thing. Start with learning about tomcat. Launch the examples, start doing work with basic servlets and JSP pages. Learn about JDBC. Then move onto frameworks, SpringMVC, Struts, Hibernate. Oh yea, and dont get frustrated. J2EE can be very frustrating. I have known people with very little J2EE development knowledge and been able to get jobs in J2EE (because there are so many in that area). I think that core J2SE doesnt have as many positions because that would equate to Swing applications or Console based, and web seems to be the new thing for application development so there is such a focus on J2EE. Berlin Brown http://www.botspiritcompany.com/botlist Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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