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newbie: which IDE to choose?

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R.A.M. - 30 Dec 2006 15:24 GMT
Hello,
(Sorry for my English...)
I have started learning Java in Windows XP and Linux. I am going to
programme database applications with web GUI (JDBC, JSP, Servlets, as I
understand). I have a question to experienced programmers: which development
environment I should choose? I would like to learn IDE that I will (the most
probably) use in my future job.
Could you help me please? Thank you!
/RAM/
Arne Vajhøj - 30 Dec 2006 15:32 GMT
> I have started learning Java in Windows XP and Linux. I am going to
> programme database applications with web GUI (JDBC, JSP, Servlets, as I
> understand). I have a question to experienced programmers: which development
> environment I should choose? I would like to learn IDE that I will (the most
> probably) use in my future job.

There are a pretty good chance that you will end up using
Eclipse or an Eclipse derivative in your future job.

Arne
Lew - 30 Dec 2006 17:08 GMT
>> I have started learning Java in Windows XP and Linux. I am going to
>> programme database applications with web GUI (JDBC, JSP, Servlets, as
>> I understand). I have a question to experienced programmers: which
>> development environment I should choose? I would like to learn IDE
>> that I will (the most probably) use in my future job.

> There are a pretty good chance that you will end up using
> Eclipse or an Eclipse derivative in your future job.

There is also a very good chance that you will encounter JBuilder, Netbeans,
Sun Studio, JEdit, ....

All these IDEs have much to recommend them. If you are concerned about being
highly employable, I suggest you do two things:

- Learn at least two of the major IDEs out there. If you learn Eclipse you are
also learning much of IBM's WebSphere Application Developer (WSAD). If you
learn Netbeans you are also learning much of Sun's Studio IDE.

- Learn to use a neutral editor like emacs or vi and to build your
applications from the command line using Ant. This will give you understanding
so that IDE activities are less mysterious.

I have worked in many shops that had Eclipse or WSAD as a standard but I used
my own preferred editor or IDE on my workstation. I do that in my current job.
Chance has very little to do with what I use. I also routinely flip between a
text editor and the IDE. I also do command-line builds for anything I intend
to really release.

If you don't know what is really going on, no IDE can really help you.

- Lew
Arne Vajhøj - 30 Dec 2006 19:22 GMT
>>> I have started learning Java in Windows XP and Linux. I am going to
>>> programme database applications with web GUI (JDBC, JSP, Servlets, as
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> There is also a very good chance that you will encounter JBuilder,
> Netbeans, Sun Studio, JEdit, ....

New versions of JBuilder is Eclipse based also.

4 years ago JBuilder was the big one in the commercial space
today it is Eclipse.

Arne
jupiter - 31 Dec 2006 04:14 GMT
> - Learn to use a neutral editor like emacs or vi and to build
> your applications from the command line using Ant. This will give
> you understanding so that IDE activities are less mysterious.

It's a great learning experience.  Classpath and build options
should be a good experience.
Mike Schilling - 30 Dec 2006 18:11 GMT
>> I have started learning Java in Windows XP and Linux. I am going to
>> programme database applications with web GUI (JDBC, JSP, Servlets, as I
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> There are a pretty good chance that you will end up using
> Eclipse or an Eclipse derivative in your future job.

I recently did some work at a place that had standardized on Eclipse.  Many
of the developers there preferred IntelliJ, though, and continued to use it.
coolzeze - 31 Dec 2006 13:26 GMT
> Hello,
> (Sorry for my English...)
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Could you help me please? Thank you!
> /RAM/

I use eclipse and myeclipse , I think it is very easy


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