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is a java pppoe possible?

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Dennis A. Vitali - 28 Dec 2006 22:47 GMT
Does the microedition allow for pppoe execution. I've only seen stuff like
DatagramServer and DatagramClient examples? Would like to see if I can use
pppoe over wifi with handhelds!
Thank
Dennis A. Vitali
vitali@snet.net
Daniel Pitts - 28 Dec 2006 22:57 GMT
> Does the microedition allow for pppoe execution. I've only seen stuff like
> DatagramServer and DatagramClient examples? Would like to see if I can use
> pppoe over wifi with handhelds!
> Thank
> Dennis A. Vitali
> vitali@snet.net

Its my understanding that PPPoE is lower on the protocol stack then
most people need to worry about.  If it works over TCP/IP, it should
work over PPP.

On a side note, PPPoE is a rather silly abstraction anyway... PPP
(Point-to-point protocol) was created as a way to emulate ethernet over
a serial line.  PPPoE is a way to emulate PPP over Ethernet, so in a
way, you're emulating Ethernet over Ethernet.

That genius went on to design VoPPPoIPoEoPPPoSLIP.  j/k

Anyway, if Java ME support sockets at all, PPP vs WiFi vs Ethernet
should be irrelevant.
Karl Uppiano - 29 Dec 2006 07:20 GMT
>> Does the microedition allow for pppoe execution. I've only seen stuff
>> like
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> Anyway, if Java ME support sockets at all, PPP vs WiFi vs Ethernet
> should be irrelevant.

Hmmm... One of the things PPPoE does is handle authentication with ISPs for
DSL connections. Silly or not, someone might need the protocol in order to
connect and get an IP address. People usually let their router handle that.
That functionality is definitely below the socket abstraction that Java
normally supplies.
Dennis A. Vitali - 01 Jan 2007 22:30 GMT
according to SUN there our a few jsr's that may apply when released  :
jsr 259
and
jsr 279
Dennis

>>> Does the microedition allow for pppoe execution. I've only seen stuff
>>> like
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> handle that. That functionality is definitely below the socket abstraction
> that Java normally supplies.


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