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http://www.coderbuzz.com > http://www.coderbuzz.com That site sucks. > > http://www.spammed-url.removed > That site sucks. Then why did you give the spammer the free publicity it wanted?  SignatureC. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I cbmanica(at)gmail.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome. >>>http://www.spammed-url.removed > >>That site sucks. > > Then why did you give the spammer the free publicity it wanted? He didn't give "it" any more than "it" got "it"self with the initial post, unless he broadened the newsgroup list. As far as I can tell, if anything he narrowed it to just cljp. Also, if every posting of a URL, even when it's seemingly (at least tangentially) on topic, constitutes spamming, then an awful lot of the regulars in this group are spammers. :) > He didn't give "it" any more than "it" got "it"self with the initial > post, unless he broadened the newsgroup list. As far as I can tell, if > anything he narrowed it to just cljp. Every additional mention of a spammed URL increases the likelihood that it will be seen and visited. (Or perhaps I am merely being too comp.lang.c about the situation...) > Also, if every posting of a URL, even when it's seemingly (at least > tangentially) on topic, constitutes spamming, then an awful lot of the > regulars in this group are spammers. :) Posting URLs might be acceptable when they are accompanied by some on-topic introductory text, say "There is some good information here about Java". As it stands, the original post looks like some generic, throwaway post to drive traffic to yet another wannabe Official Source For Everything. SignatureC. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I cbmanica(at)gmail.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome. > Every additional mention of a spammed URL increases the likelihood > that it will be seen and visited. (Or perhaps I am merely being too > comp.lang.c about the situation...) If the mentions are in independent locations, that's true. But the likelihood is changed the *least* in the precise situation that occurred, where one occurrence is in the parent of the other occurrence and in the exact same groups. They tend to be either both seen, or neither seen, by any given person in that case. > Posting URLs might be acceptable when they are accompanied by some > on-topic introductory text, say "There is some good information here > about Java". As it stands, the original post looks like some generic, > throwaway post to drive traffic to yet another wannabe Official Source > For Everything. It's a pretty iffy call in this case. The post that started this thread was, you must admit, a far cry from things like someone writing "#3rb4l V1Agr4!!! Get it while it's hot!" (continuing with several links to dubious www.foo.ru servers, or even blind IP addresses) and massively x-posting it to every group in the world *except* alt.pharmaceuticals ... :) > Also, if every posting of a URL, even when it's seemingly (at least > tangentially) on topic, constitutes spamming, then an awful lot of the > regulars in this group are spammers. :) FWIW, my definition of a newsgroup spammer (and I don't necessarily expect anyone else to share this definition) is someone who makes a post with no intent to read the replies. - Oliver >>Also, if every posting of a URL, even when it's seemingly (at least >>tangentially) on topic, constitutes spamming, then an awful lot of the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > expect anyone else to share this definition) is someone who makes a post > with no intent to read the replies. That definition makes everyone who's ever posted "PLONK!" anywhere on Usenet into a spammer. >>>Also, if every posting of a URL, even when it's seemingly (at least >>>tangentially) on topic, constitutes spamming, then an awful lot of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > That definition makes everyone who's ever posted "PLONK!" anywhere on > Usenet into a spammer. No, they may still be willing to read replies to that "PLONK" post (as long as it's not from the person who got plonked). - Oliver > No, they may still be willing to read replies to that "PLONK" post (as > long as it's not from the person who got plonked). Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have the last word?) > Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and > pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have the last > word?) Well, on comp.lang.c at least, a PLONK has a non-zero chance of eliciting a post to the effect of "Please keep your plonks to yourself" :-) SignatureC. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I cbmanica(at)gmail.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome. >>Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and >>pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have the last [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > eliciting a post to the effect of "Please keep your plonks to > yourself" :-) Does anyone ever read these? >>>Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and >>>pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have the last [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Does anyone ever read these? Yes. Christopher Benson-Manica has read it at least once, or else he wouldn't have known about them. - Oliver >>>>Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and >>>>pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Yes. Christopher Benson-Manica has read it at least once, or > else he wouldn't have known about them. Has anybody done a scan of that OP at the byte code level? [ducking] >>>>>Who replies to a plonk post, though? Except, occasionally and >>>>>pointlessly, the person who got plonked. (Maybe seeking to have [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Has anybody done a scan of that OP at the byte code level? You'll probably find that all his methods are private and he doesn't declare a public interface. (Just like most large corporations with their unsupportably bad products and/or services, not to mention most women, these days.) > You'll probably find that all his methods are private and he doesn't > declare a public interface. (Just like most large corporations with > their unsupportably bad products and/or services, not to mention most > women, these days.) I'm a man, not vaporware ;-) (The buyMeBeer() method is public and can work around most any internal bugs, although I'm not unit tested.) SignatureC. Benson Manica | I *should* know what I'm talking about - if I cbmanica(at)gmail.com | don't, I need to know. Flames welcome. >>You'll probably find that all his methods are private and he doesn't >>declare a public interface. (Just like most large corporations with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm a man, not vaporware ;-) (The buyMeBeer() method is public and > can work around most any internal bugs, although I'm not unit tested.) Not much help to me. Seems you're a singleton with a private constructor and I've never met your factory class let alone accessed her public interface. What's a man to do? >> I'm a man, not vaporware ;-) (The buyMeBeer() method is public and >> can work around most any internal bugs, although I'm not unit tested.) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > What's a man to do? Well, showing up well dressed[1] and groomed on the first date and buying her flowers won't hurt. Also, you *could* express your desire to "access her pub(l)ic interface" with a little more delicate phrasing. Most women tend to take offence if you call their interface public, even if it is. ("Would you like to come over to my place for coffee and a nice chat?" works wonders in many cases. "Would you like to dance?" can give you a nice feel of her public members, too. *wink*) [1] No, I do not mean the _clean_ anime T-shirt, I'm talking pressed trousers and white collars here. Signature-Aki Laukkanen >>> I'm a man, not vaporware ;-) (The buyMeBeer() method is public and >>> can work around most any internal bugs, although I'm not unit tested.) [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > [1] No, I do not mean the _clean_ anime T-shirt, I'm talking pressed > trousers and white collars here. Isn't that only applicable to those really formal occasions where nobody shows up without at least three layers of indirection and a veritable cloud of auxiliary classes serving their needs? You know the type, all hoity-toity in their fancy JDBC getups and sequined all over with EJBs and gold-plated servlet containers...you know, the upper *business* class that look down their noses at a mere JavaBean and aspire to hobnob with the *real* Bank-and-BankAccount set, though they keep getting nothing but SecurityExceptions... >> > http://www.spammed-url.removed > >> That site sucks. > > Then why did you give the spammer the free publicity it wanted? I read the spam and immediately went to the first reply, which definitely provided me with the proper feedback. I've always believed in kicking the sh.t out of spam. If a newbie can see it getting the sh.t kicked out of it and still clicks on the link, well, it's not my Good Samaritan's job to save him. Some people cannot be saved. I also thought "That site sucks" was a nice boost of humor for the otherwise dreary day. It's pithy and full of inyourendo. Three words and a period, that's all it took. That is like nice code, isn't it? Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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