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Brand New to Java and J2EE - Need Help Getting Started

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JAF - 21 Nov 2006 22:41 GMT
I have applied to a firm for a position as a Business Analyst.  Many
of the projects I will be working on use J2EE.  In order to work
better with the developers, I want to learn about J2EE.  (I do have a
programming background, just nmot in Java and related software.)

Several questions arise:

1.  Is this a good idea, i.e. to learn some about Java and J2EE to be
able to talk intelligently to the developers?

I went to the Sun web site and found a tutorial on J2EE which
suggested I first learn about Java.  To do this I was directed to a
download page for the SDK of various versions of Java.  None of the
pages work.

2. Is this a good set of tutorials?

If so I followed Sun's links to be able to download, and when I click
on the download for different SDK's, I get a fatal error page on the
Sun web site.

What is going on here?

Thanks for your help.
Rhino - 22 Nov 2006 16:47 GMT
>I have applied to a firm for a position as a Business Analyst.  Many
> of the projects I will be working on use J2EE.  In order to work
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> 1.  Is this a good idea, i.e. to learn some about Java and J2EE to be
> able to talk intelligently to the developers?

Of course it is. It has ALWAYS been a good idea to know something about the
tools you are going to be working with.

> I went to the Sun web site and found a tutorial on J2EE which
> suggested I first learn about Java.  To do this I was directed to a
> download page for the SDK of various versions of Java.  None of the
> pages work.

Thousands of people download the SDKs every month. I've done it myself
several times, although not for several months.

> 2. Is this a good set of tutorials?

I don't recall looking at the J2EE tutorials so I can't say. Others here
should have a better idea. They will also be able to suggest various
alternative websites and books. Java is mature enough now to have a fair bit
of literature. Some of the published books are quite good.

> If so I followed Sun's links to be able to download, and when I click
> on the download for different SDK's, I get a fatal error page on the
> Sun web site.
>
> What is going on here?

If it's not working now, it may be because of a temporary server problem at
Sun's site. Or perhaps you are doing something wrong?

Give it a few hours and try again. If it still doesn't work, send in an
error report to Sun and wait a few more hours. Or get some help from someone
who has used the site recently. Perhaps you just need to turn on cookies
before your download will work. I vaguely remember having to do that several
years to use the Sun site.

--
Rhino
JAF - 22 Nov 2006 23:58 GMT
snip

Thanks for your post.  The site at Sun is now working.  Since it was
the first time I went there, and since the error message was "Fatal
Error" and not much else, I did not know if it was a temporary thing
or not.

I did get the SDK ok and it is working on my computer.

One other question, while I have you.

What should I look at to learn about Java's ablity to handle
relational databases?  I do a lot of design work based on business
problems, and I ahve always found the relational model to work well
for business data.

Where can I learn about using Java to handle this?

Thanks
Best regards,

JAF
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