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need a new Java Editor, netbeans isnt cutting it.

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Justin - 15 Nov 2006 00:09 GMT
I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
Currently, I use Netbeans to write code.  Today, I was using the faster
laptop, I've been coding for about 6 hours, and NetBeans has crashed
twice.  To me, that's unnacceptable.  What are recommendations for
editors to hack code?

Thanks
Furious George - 15 Nov 2006 00:12 GMT
> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>
> Thanks

emacs is very stable.
Arne Vajhøj - 15 Nov 2006 00:21 GMT
> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
> Currently, I use Netbeans to write code.  Today, I was using the faster
> laptop, I've been coding for about 6 hours, and NetBeans has crashed
> twice.  To me, that's unnacceptable.  What are recommendations for
> editors to hack code?

Have you tried Eclipse ?

Arne
tiewknvc9 - 15 Nov 2006 04:09 GMT
download ECLIPSE!  Once set up, it does really kick a.s.

Arne Vajh?j wrote:
> > I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
> > on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>
> Arne
Knute Johnson - 15 Nov 2006 05:53 GMT
> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>
> Thanks

I like Vim.

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Jeffrey Schwab - 15 Nov 2006 13:21 GMT
>> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
>> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>
> I like Vim.

Me, too.
David Segall - 15 Nov 2006 06:13 GMT
>I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
>on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
>Currently, I use Netbeans to write code.  Today, I was using the faster
>laptop, I've been coding for about 6 hours, and NetBeans has crashed
>twice.  To me, that's unnacceptable.  What are recommendations for
>editors to hack code?
Which version of NetBeans are you using?
Lionel - 15 Nov 2006 06:27 GMT
>> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
>> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>> editors to hack code?
> Which version of NetBeans are you using?

This is a good question. Netbeans has /never/ crashed on me! I've been
using it since 3.x.

The problem may be elsewhere or you may be using a beta version.

Lionel.
kylevasatka@gmail.com - 15 Nov 2006 06:35 GMT
I second the vote for Eclipse.  The interface is great and so is the
support for it.  It also helps you out a lot when it comes to error
messages, warnings, etc.  The "Quick Fix" option is handy for
debugging.  Also, there are a lot of add-ons for Eclipse that makes
coding and documentation a lot easier.  USE ECLIPSE, YOU WILL LIKE IT!

> >> I have two laptops, both have intel centrino duo processors, both run
> >> on XP Media Center edition, one a 1gig ram, the other 2gigs.
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>
> Lionel.
C Student - 15 Nov 2006 07:09 GMT
> I second the vote for Eclipse.  The interface is great and so is the
> support for it.  It also helps you out a lot when it comes to error
> messages, warnings, etc.  The "Quick Fix" option is handy for
> debugging.  Also, there are a lot of add-ons for Eclipse that makes
> coding and documentation a lot easier.  USE ECLIPSE, YOU WILL LIKE IT!

Is it just me or does eclipse require a lot of stuffing around to get
working? netbeans just works out of the box.
kylevasatka@gmail.com - 15 Nov 2006 07:07 GMT
Aside from setting up where you want your workspace to be (where to
save to) and what directories to create projects in, there's no setup
required.  It's very easy to use...it's fast...and it rarely gives me
trouble.

> > I second the vote for Eclipse.  The interface is great and so is the
> > support for it.  It also helps you out a lot when it comes to error
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> Is it just me or does eclipse require a lot of stuffing around to get
> working? netbeans just works out of the box.
C Student - 15 Nov 2006 07:14 GMT
> Aside from setting up where you want your workspace to be (where to
> save to) and what directories to create projects in, there's no setup
> required.  It's very easy to use...it's fast...and it rarely gives me
> trouble.

Ok so you don't need to manually install a ton of different plugins to
get a working ide with gui editors and the like. Thats good I haven't
looked at it in a while when I last looked at it I couldn't get it to
work.

Also is it possible to search the java documentation from within
eclipse. netbeans seems to support it but I can't get it to work.

also is it possible to press f1 on a command and have documentation
pop up for that command?
kylevasatka@gmail.com - 15 Nov 2006 07:17 GMT
If you are typing out a class name and looking to find the methods
contained within that class, an "autocomplete" type box will pop up,
for example if you were typing "System." a box would pop up showing all
the methods for the System class.  So the Java API is basically there
for you "on the fly".  As far as plugins go...they are basically like
Firefox extensions if you are familiar with those.  Yes you may have to
download plugins for extended functionalities, but they should be
self-installing and self-configuring.

> > Aside from setting up where you want your workspace to be (where to
> > save to) and what directories to create projects in, there's no setup
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> also is it possible to press f1 on a command and have documentation
> pop up for that command?
Michael Rauscher - 15 Nov 2006 09:06 GMT
C Student schrieb:

> Ok so you don't need to manually install a ton of different plugins to
> get a working ide with gui editors and the like. Thats good I haven't
> looked at it in a while when I last looked at it I couldn't get it to work.

I think it doesn't matter much which IDE one uses - to me it's just a
matter of taste. I prefer NetBeans over Eclipse but perhaps this is just
because Eclipse *was* very slow when I tried it first on Linux. Eclipse
has the advantage of an incremental compiler (I don't like this feature,
so I disabled automatic building in Eclipse).

> Also is it possible to search the java documentation from within
> eclipse. netbeans seems to support it but I can't get it to work.

Shift-F1 opens the Javadoc Index Search. NetBeans automatically looks
after the word you were located.

Another possibility is to use Alt-F1 which opens the Javadoc in an
external browser.

> also is it possible to press f1 on a command and have documentation pop
> up for that command?

Press Ctrl-Space to get the code completion window. NetBeans
automatically pops up the JavaDoc for the selected class or method.

If you don't receive any of the documentation then I'd guess you didn't
specify the location of the Javadocs (properly).

Open Tools->Platform Manager, select the platform you're working with
and go to the Javadoc tab. Press the "Add ZIP/Folder" button and select
either the ZIP file that contains the JDK Javadocs or the directory...

Bye
Michael
Lionel - 15 Nov 2006 21:54 GMT
> C Student schrieb:
>>
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> I think it doesn't matter much which IDE one uses - to me it's just a
> matter of taste.

I agree.

 I prefer NetBeans over Eclipse but perhaps this is just
> because Eclipse *was* very slow when I tried it first on Linux. Eclipse
> has the advantage of an incremental compiler (I don't like this feature,
> so I disabled automatic building in Eclipse).

I had a similar experience. First time I tried Eclipse it was just a
tar.gz and I couldn't get it to run. Second time I tried Eclipse was on
Redhat (which must be the worst of the distro's despite it's popularity)
and it was so incredibly slow, Eclipse was incredibly memory hungry that
there was no way of doing anything. Third time I tried it was tolerable
but after looking around for a few minutes I decided there wasn't going
to be anything special and I may as well not waste my time learning a
new IDE.

Lionel.
adwords@pulpjava.com - 15 Nov 2006 22:47 GMT
I think you'll love Eclipse at www.eclipse.org

IRAD is pretty awesome too, if you can get version 6.1. Of course, it
does have a price tag.

There are lots of great plugins for eclipse though.

-Cameron McKenzie
Author of the SCJA Certification Guide and What is WebSphere?

Certification Resources: www.examscam.com
Free WebSphere Tutorials: www.pulpjava.com
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Free J2EE and Java Multimedia Tutorials: www.mcnz.com

> > C Student schrieb:
> >>
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>
> Lionel.
Lionel - 15 Nov 2006 21:49 GMT
> I second the vote for Eclipse.  The interface is great and so is the
> support for it.  It also helps you out a lot when it comes to error
> messages, warnings, etc.  The "Quick Fix" option is handy for
> debugging.  Also, there are a lot of add-ons for Eclipse that makes
> coding and documentation a lot easier.  USE ECLIPSE, YOU WILL LIKE IT!

I didn't first it :). The two IDE's are much and muchness.

Lionel.


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