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CribbsStyle - 11 Nov 2006 02:07 GMT
Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
for learning Java?

Thanks
Dennis
www.pulpjava.com - 11 Nov 2006 02:48 GMT
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> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
> for learning Java?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
amanda - 11 Nov 2006 04:41 GMT
Just bookmarking...

> How would some multimedia tutorials on WAS administration, ans WSAD
> development help you out? Did I mention they were free?
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> > Thanks
> > Dennis
Arne Vajhøj - 11 Nov 2006 02:54 GMT
> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
> for learning Java?

Best tool ? Ask 10 people and get 11 different answers ! :-)

My answer would be Eclipse.

Best resource ? Depends a bit on your current programming
experience with Java and other languages !

Tell us that and we may come up with some book
recommendations.

Arne
Daniel Dyer - 11 Nov 2006 13:28 GMT
>> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
>> for learning Java?
>
> Best tool ? Ask 10 people and get 11 different answers ! :-)
>
> My answer would be Eclipse.

Well I'm going to give several more, different answers so you might even  
get more than the 11:

1). BlueJ (http://www.bluej.org).  It's an IDE designed for teaching Java  
by focusing on the OO aspects.

2). A general purpose programmer's text editor and the JDK.  Any editor  
that does syntax highlighting and auto-indentation for Java is  
sufficient.  There are dozens (JEdit, J, TextPad, UltraEdit, or even Emacs  
or vi if you already know how to use them).

3). If you feel you must use one of the mainstream IDEs, go with  
NetBeans.  There is now also a NetBeans BlueJ edition to ease the  
transition if you start with BlueJ first.

Personally, I find Eclipse unintuitive and frustrating and wouldn't  
recommend it to beginners.

And, since the question was "what is the best tool" rather than "what is  
the best for beginners", I'd be wrong not to mention my personal choice:  
IntelliJ IDEA.

Dan.

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Lew - 12 Nov 2006 15:44 GMT
CribbsStyle wrote:
> Whats the best tool to develop using java?

Your brain.

> Also whats the best resource for learning Java?

Your brain.

GIYF.  So is Sun.  I almost always start at

http://java.sun.com

and explore from there.

The API docs are awesome, and so are Sun's tutorials.  Books like _Thinking in
Java_ by Bruce Eckel (available for free online), _Java in 21 Days_ (I don't
recall author or publisher: GIYF and so is Amazon or Bookpool), Joshua Bloch's
_Effective Java_, are also helpful.

JavaPro magazine (Fawcett Publications) and their online version are great
resources.

IBM has a good resource at DeveloperWorks,
http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/java.

Reading through this newsgroup and comp.lang.java.help are also beneficial.

- Lew
IchBin - 12 Nov 2006 16:07 GMT
> CribbsStyle wrote:
> Whats the best tool to develop using java?
>> Also whats the best resource for learning Java?

The Really Big Index
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html

Java Language Specification, Third Edition
http://java.sun.com/docs/books/jls/third_edition/html/j3TOC.html

JDK 6 Documentation
http://download.java.net/jdk6/doc

Java Platform, Standard Edition 6 API Specification
http://download.java.net/jdk6/doc/api/index.html

The Java Developers Almanac 1.4 examples
http://javaalmanac.com/

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tryb - 11 Nov 2006 12:04 GMT
The command line. Seriously.

IDEs, especially early on, mask some important understandings and will
slow you down with bells and whistles.

> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
> for learning Java?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis
David Segall - 11 Nov 2006 14:44 GMT
>Whats the best tool to develop using java?
The answer depends almost entirely on your programming background. Is
Java your first programming language? If not, which language(s) have
you used and which tool(s) did you use to write them.
>Also whats the best resource
>for learning Java?
The answer to this one depends on the answer to your first question
and also on how you like to study. For example, I have always depended
on a paper text book beside me to read while I worked on the computer.
I have, fairly recently, added a second monitor and I'm now accustomed
to having an on-line tutorial on the second monitor as a substitute
for a printed version. Other people find attending classes is the
"best" way to learn.
mrbiggers@yahoo.com - 12 Nov 2006 23:29 GMT
Hi Cribbs,

> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best resource
> for learning Java?
>
> Thanks
> Dennis

I am bashing through the "Agile Java" book, using the Netbeans 5.5 IDE.
I am a long-time Python
hacker (C, C++ too), and I must say the combination of AJ and Netbeans
impresses me.

You might need references like the "Java Developer's Almanac" or "Java
in a Nutshell" to back up "Agile Java".  However, the "cntl-space" help
in Netbeans is so extensive, with the IDE assistance  to "cover" a lot
of the syntax gotchas -- it all helps you learn faster and learn
better, IMHO.

It was pretty easy, too, to get a recent Glassfish (Sun JEE 5
application server) build to talk to Netbeans, and to deploy Web apps
such as the IBatis "JPetStore".

All in all, you can't go wrong.  I have a subscription to and tinkered
a fair amount with Eclipse (MyEclipseIDE.com), but Netbeans doesn't get
in the way as much with "too many" layers of panels, modes and menus.

I hope this helps.
----mark

"java is the New Cobol ;)" -- hoping Python & Jython get fully
supported in Netbeans :) !
jussij@zeusedit.com - 13 Nov 2006 22:18 GMT
> Whats the best tool to develop using java? Also whats the best
> resource for learning Java?

FWIW the Zeus for Windows IDE has support for Java:

  http://www.zeusedit.com/features.html
  Note: Zeus is shareware (45 day trial).

It has features like class browsing, syntax highlighting,
smart indent, code folding, project/workspace management,
integrated version control etc etc.

You can also integrate the Java SDK help files directly
into the editor, which provides context sensitive access
the SDK information.

 http://www.zeusedit.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10

Jussi Jumppanen
Author: Zeus for Windows


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