JBuilder and Eclipse?

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Ramon F Herrera - 28 Oct 2006 17:43 GMT

A while back, there was some talk or even announcements (?) about
JBuilder becoming open source and/or an Eclipsized version of JBuilder
being developed.

Whatever happened?

Thanks,

-Ramon F Herrera

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Arne Vajhøj - 28 Oct 2006 21:36 GMT

> A while back, there was some talk or even announcements (?) about
> JBuilder becoming open source and/or an Eclipsized version of JBuilder
> being developed.
>
> Whatever happened?

I think Borland joined Eclipse and announced that
future JBuilder versions would be based on Eclipse,
but no software has materialized so far.

http://www.borland.com/us/company/news/press_releases/2005/05_31_05_borland_anno
unces_jbuilder_product_roadmap.html
http://bdn.borland.com/article/33485

Arne

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Tor Iver Wilhelmsen - 28 Oct 2006 23:14 GMT

> I think Borland joined Eclipse and announced that
> future JBuilder versions would be based on Eclipse,
> but no software has materialized so far.

Together for Java has moved to Eclipse, it seems:

http://www.borland.com/downloads/download_together.html

However, there is no sign that the other dev tools - like JBuilder -
have moved to the platform. Together was a bit of an "outsider"
anyway, since that was a product family they bought.

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Arne Vajhøj - 28 Oct 2006 23:29 GMT

> Together for Java has moved to Eclipse, it seems:
>
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> have moved to the platform. Together was a bit of an "outsider"
> anyway, since that was a product family they bought.

You did not bother reading the two links I gave ??

Arne

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> > I think Borland joined Eclipse and announced that
> > future JBuilder versions would be based on Eclipse,
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> have moved to the platform. Together was a bit of an "outsider"
> anyway, since that was a product family they bought.

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Ramon F Herrera - 29 Oct 2006 01:49 GMT

> A while back, there was some talk or even announcements (?) about
> JBuilder becoming open source and/or an Eclipsized version of JBuilder
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> -Ramon F Herrera

I have several JBuilder projects and am considering converting them to
Eclipse. How hard/easy is it? The projects are based on Swing.

Thanks,

-Ramon

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IchBin - 29 Oct 2006 18:36 GMT

>> A while back, there was some talk or even announcements (?) about
>> JBuilder becoming open source and/or an Eclipsized version of JBuilder
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> -Ramon

Not sure if this helps but found this on the internet..

View as HTML
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:3hIS0WcLI7AJ:bdn1.borland.com/borcon2005fil
es/33205/33205_11111429_S.PPT+migrate+JBuilder+projects+to+Eclipse&hl=en&gl=us&c
t=clnk&cd=3&client=mozilla
or PPT:
http://bdn1.borland.com/borcon2005files/33205/33205_11111429_S.PPT

I have only migrated back and forth between Eclipse and Netbeans.

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Thomas Weidenfeller - 30 Oct 2006 10:25 GMT

> A while back, there was some talk or even announcements (?) about
> JBuilder becoming open source and/or an Eclipsized version of JBuilder
> being developed.
>
> Whatever happened?

Borland is about to do an "Imprise"[1] again. They are bundling all
their tool development activities, slapping the old brand "Turbo" on the
tools and try to sell that part of the business. I don't know if they
have already found a buyer.

/Thomas

[1] Imprise was Borland's new company name when they were going
"Enterprise development". They thought that they don't need individual
developers as customers any more and "fired" the customers. When that
strategy failed they renamed back to Borland and tried to convince
developers to buy Borland tools again.

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RedGrittyBrick - 30 Oct 2006 21:07 GMT

> [1] Imprise was Borland's new company name when they were going
> "Enterprise development". They thought that they don't need individual
> developers as customers any more and "fired" the customers. When that
> strategy failed they renamed back to Borland and tried to convince
> developers to buy Borland tools again.

s/Imprise/Inprise/

From what I've read, the people* responsible for the Inprise fiasco are
keeping the Borland name for their application lifecyle products.

I'd be happier if the Borland name went with the compiler business. I
have fond memories of Turbo Pascal 3 and Delphi 2. There was a time when
an industry leading IDE could be distributed on a floppy diskette
(remember those?).

* or their like-minded successors.

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Thomas Weidenfeller - 31 Oct 2006 09:50 GMT

> I'd be happier if the Borland name went with the compiler business. I
> have fond memories of Turbo Pascal 3 and Delphi 2. There was a time when
> an industry leading IDE could be distributed on a floppy diskette
> (remember those?).

I remember Turbo Pascal on CP/M. But these days I consider Borland
counted out. My guess is their JBuilder will go the way of Symantec
Cafe. It was nice while it lasted.

Symantec Cafe is also such a story. Once *the* Java IDE it is now dead
and forgotten. It was sold with the promise of free upgrades to newer
versions. Many people who bought it early knew the GUI builder was bad,
but counted on a free update with a usable GUI editor. When the new
version with the new GUI editor was ready Symantec renamed the whole
product to "Visual Cafe", and refused to provide free updates to old
Cafe users, on the ground that "Visual Cafe" != "Symantec Cafe". They
lost their user base quickly. Some time later Symantec sold the business
(they had a great but largely unknown C++ IDE, too). No one talks about
Cafe since then.

Ironically, the remains ended up at Borland. After becoming WebGain, the
product was sold to TogetherSoft. And Borland later bought TogetherSoft.
They terminated all Cafe products and suggested to upgrade to JBuilder.
Now JBuilder is about to meet a similar fate.

/Thomas

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Chris Uppal - 31 Oct 2006 13:04 GMT

> I remember Turbo Pascal on CP/M. But these days I consider Borland
> counted out. My guess is their JBuilder will go the way of Symantec
> Cafe. It was nice while it lasted.

Talking of good, but long dead, Java environments: anyone remember Supercede
from Asymetrix ? Still the only Java programming environment I've used which
didn't make me feel as if I were wading though treacle (or worse).

(I'm almost tempted to see if my old Supercede CD will still install -- it'd be
interesting to see if I still like it as much now that I've become used to
Smalltalk environments)

-- chris

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