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Java Forum / General / August 2006Windows XP with no JVM?
I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a JRE. This to me is very scary for the future of Java. I would guess that the majority of people on the internet would not have the knowledge or would be uncomfortable executing install programs off the Internet. Yikes!! Thomas Magma schreef: > I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM > in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are > embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a > JRE. This to me is very scary for the future of Java. I would guess that the > majority of people on the internet would not have the knowledge or would be > uncomfortable executing install programs off the Internet. Installing a JRE is quite easy, if not very easy. The download is quite big, but most people have broad-band nowadays. Also, most new computers with Windows have JRE pre-installed as well by the OEM-vendor. Thomas Magma schreef: > I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM > in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are > embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a > JRE. This to me is very scary for the future of Java. I would guess that the > majority of people on the internet would not have the knowledge or would be > uncomfortable executing install programs off the Internet. Installing a JRE is quite easy, if not very easy. The download is quite big, but most people have broad-band nowadays. Also, most new computers with Windows have JRE pre-installed as well by the OEM-vendor. >I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM >in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are >embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a >JRE. This to me is very scary for the future of Java. I would guess that >the majority of people on the internet would not have the knowledge or >would be uncomfortable executing install programs off the Internet. WinXP has been without a JVM for a long time (mid 2005?). Users are pretty resourceful at downloading and installing whatever they need to get something working. Lack of a JVM isn't a problem. .NET is a bigger problem. Developers might choose to target .NET instead of Java. - Oliver > I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM > in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are > embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a > JRE. This to me is very scary for the future of Java. I would guess that the > majority of people on the internet would not have the knowledge or would be > uncomfortable executing install programs off the Internet. The short answer is yes. The long answer is yes, but you can go to Java.com, Sun's consumer Java website, and download browser plugins, which also will install the latest JRE. And it's pretty effin' simple to do. :) Especially since the major browsers have functionality that will pop up a message saying "you need to download the plugin, click here to get it" in many cases.  SignatureSteve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows Apple Valley, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room. > I just received a new computer and it doesn't appear that there is any JVM > in this version of Windows XP. Does that mean that all applets that are > embedded on the Internet will cease to function unless someone installs a > JRE. If the applet deployer has any snese, they might use one of the following methods to ensure that either a suitable JVM is installed, or the user is prompted to download it, or the user is (at the very least) informed why there is a blank space on the web page. The methods are.. - use the applet element with appropriate alt and 'no java' attributes - use the nested object/embed element that does Java versioning - deploy the applet uising webstart (which can also do Java versioning/prompt for installation) >...This to me is very scary for the future of Java. Wow! You are *way* behind the times! JVM's began disappearing from IE around 8(?) years ago! Andrew T. Free MagazinesGet these publications absolutely FREE for up to 12 months. There are no hidden fees and no obligation. Simply choose a title, complete the application form and submit it. Read more ...
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