> Patricia Shanahan wrote On 08/28/06 23:19,:
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> is thread-safe. What can be inferred about the thread-safety
> of nextInt()?
How did you find out from the documentation that next() is thread safe?
The sample implementation in the JDK 1.5.0 documentation is not,
although the code is.
In any case, even if Random were final I would not know, without looking
at the nextInt() source code, that it does not use or modify any
variables. I already know from looking at next() that sample
implementations in the javadocs are abstractions that do not necessarily
match the thread safety of the real code.
> Not much, because when nextInt() calls next() it might not
> be calling java.util.Random#next()! Random is a non-final
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> as far as I think one could go without creating a false sense
> of security.
Anything the Javadoc says about a non-final method in a non-final class,
that is not forced by the declaration, can be broken by a subclass.
For example, one could override nextInt(int) always return 42,
regardless of the state of the seed or the value of the int parameter.
Does that make it inappropriate for the Javadoc to say "Returns a
pseudorandom, uniformly distributed int value between 0 (inclusive) and
the specified value (exclusive),..."?
I would view a Javadoc thread safety statement exactly the same way I
view a range limit within type, or a statement about postconditions in
general, as a contract that the Sun-supplied implementation does follow,
and that a subclass should follow.
Patricia
Eric Sosman - 29 Aug 2006 21:30 GMT
Patricia Shanahan wrote On 08/29/06 13:03,:
>>Patricia Shanahan wrote On 08/28/06 23:19,:
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> The sample implementation in the JDK 1.5.0 documentation is not,
> although the code is.
The sample implementation in the Javadoc synchronizes
on the Random instance before accessing the mutable state
(the `seed' element). Perhaps I'm too trusting, but I took
that to mean that synchronization was part of the "contract"
of next(), even if the actual implementation provides for it
in a different way.
Of course, the existence of one synchronized method is not
enough, by itself. There *could* always be some other method
that swizzles `seed' without synchronizing; locking the front
door while leaving the back door ajar keeps out no burglars.
But there's no reason to use `synchronized' any place at all
unless you're going to use it every place that matters, so I
understood its presence in the sample implementation as meaning
that it *would* be used wherever necessary, and that therefore
next() was thread-safe.
Yes, I'm reading more into the Javadoc than is explicitly
stated -- get me on the witness stand with Perry Mason cross-
examining, and I'll be in deep trouble in no time at all! But
practically all the computer documentation I've seen requires
the reader to make some inferences and fill in some gaps; I
don't think its implausible to conclude from the Javadoc that
next() is thread-safe.
> [...]
> I would view a Javadoc thread safety statement exactly the same way I
> view a range limit within type, or a statement about postconditions in
> general, as a contract that the Sun-supplied implementation does follow,
> and that a subclass should follow.
I'd be interested in your ideas about how such statements
could be formalized into something the javadoc processor -- or
even javac! -- could do something useful with. Annotations
seem the obvious place to start, but how do we annotate these
notions? You referred earlier to Sun's use of standardized
terms like "MT-Safe" in non-Java documentation, but I think it
might be tricky to transfer such terms to Java.

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