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application server  and web server messed up

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gk - 27 Jul 2006 19:46 GMT
hi,

Question 1 :  does web server resides inside application server ?

Reason for this question:

(a)an Application Server can run  EJB  and JSP  ALL( EAR= JAR+WAR).

(b) but Web Server can run only JSP, Servlets, WAR   BUT NO EJB.

so, From (a) and (b)   conclusion is,  Web server lives inside
Application server  becoz  Application server can do everything  ....is
this correct ?

Question 2:

If  i  buy an Application Server  but if i dont have Web Server, will
i able to give my customer to access JSP pages in www access ?

OR, to give the www access one must have Web Server ?

thanks

so,if i buy an Application server , will i able to give my customer the
www  access ?
gk - 28 Jul 2006 11:57 GMT
no response!

> hi,
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> so,if i buy an Application server , will i able to give my customer the
> www  access ?
Moiristo - 28 Jul 2006 12:04 GMT
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/ :P

How about this: http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/1355131

> no response!
>
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>> thanks
gk - 28 Jul 2006 12:21 GMT
is there anybody can have direct answer of  Question 1 and Question 2
?

please dont forward links....because i have read links and i know about
tutorials.

These are specific doubts.

I will appreciate if anybody can provide the  focussed answers .

> http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/ :P
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> >> thanks
Moiristo - 28 Jul 2006 12:36 GMT
I have a server with an apache2 webserver to allow my users to create
WWW-pages in their homedirectories. Besides Apache2, I have Tomcat
running as a separate daemon. Tomcat is solely meant for applications,
the users cannot use Tomcat without explicit access. It runs on port
8080, but there are connectors available to pass requests made on the
webserver to the application server. Hope this helps to understand the
difference between the two.

>>> no response!
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>>>> thanks
Philip Reimer - 28 Jul 2006 14:27 GMT
gk schrieb:
> hi,
>
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> so,if i buy an Application server , will i able to give my customer the
> www  access ?

Sure, if question 1 is answered with 'yes'...

also see message-id: <44c9f7f9$0$4523$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
David Segall - 28 Jul 2006 16:13 GMT
>hi,
>
>Question 1 :  does web server resides inside application server ?
Almost always.

>Reason for this question:
>
>(a)an Application Server can run  EJB  and JSP  ALL( EAR= JAR+WAR).
Not true. An application server is a general term for a remote program
that can use a web browser as the user interface to an application.
Microsoft's .NET servers  certainly rank as application servers but
cannot be used with applications that require EJBs or JSPs. I think
you are referring to a J2EE Server.

>(b) but Web Server can run only JSP, Servlets, WAR   BUT NO EJB.
Not true. A web server is only required to serve static web (HTML)
pages. I think you are referring to a Servlet Container.

>so, From (a) and (b)   conclusion is,  Web server lives inside
>Application server  becoz  Application server can do everything  ....is
>this correct ?
The fact that your (a) and (b) are false, surprisingly, does not make
your conclusion false. I would be surprised if there is a commercial
application server that could not serve static HTML pages.

>Question 2:
>
>If  i  buy an Application Server  but if i dont have Web Server, will
>i able to give my customer to access JSP pages in www access ?
If you obtain (some are free) any J2EE certified server
<http://java.sun.com/j2ee/compatibility_1.4.html> they must provide
Internet access to JSP pages. I have not seen it writing but I believe
they must also provide access to HTML pages.

>OR, to give the www access one must have Web Server ?
>
>thanks
>
>so,if i buy an Application server , will i able to give my customer the
>www  access ?


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